Consolidated Kansas

[OkieQueenBee]

Thanks for the support! The antibiotics are on the way. Anyone know the name, place and date of the big September auction near KC?

 

[chicken danz]

Yes. It is the HOAGBA fall auction in Gardner, Ks. It's at the Johnson county fair grounds. Septemer 14th. It begins at 8:00am for equipment and 9:15 for birds. Expect to spend the entire day there. You can go to :
http://www.gbwf.org/hoagba/events.html
for more information.

It costs $5 a person to get in.

 

[JosieChick]

No, I do not have Baytril on hand. I also do not have a bet around here that is knowledgeable with birds. I live in the middle of nowhere, which is definitely a bad thing in the case of sick birds. Do you think the Sulfa stuff would kick the bumblefoot infectiion? Also, how do I make sure she drinks only that water? They usually free range, and they drink out of their pool as well as the dog's water bowl.
Thank you for the information, Danz! I really appreciate it and will call the vet tomorrow after they open.

The sulfa will take care of the bumblefoot, you just need to give it for a while, same thing with the baytril but the baytril is a LOT more expensive and giving an IM injection every day for 2-3 weeks or longer can make for one grumpy duck. You would have to separate her from the flock while she is being treated. It is also important that the foot stays clean and dry most of the time so keeping her in a crate on dry bedding would be ideal. I know its a total pain (first hand with my gander in a vari kennel!) but it is the only way to get it cleared up. If it doesn't start looking a lot better soon she could have something else going on like a foreign body in her foot.

 

[JosieChick]

Lizzy- I forgot, a lot of feed stores carry some kind of sulfa liquid in a gallon for cattle so look there before you pay for shipping.

 

[cherwill]

Well it is raining again. It was a major storm earlier and the water is sitting all over, places I don't remember seeing wet before. Even the ducks and geese are tired of the water and seeking shelter. I really fear the basement will start flooding then I'll have more nasty messes to clean up.

We're also seeing water stand in areas that usually never get standing water. There's just nowhere for the water to go; the ground is completely saturated. We get water in our basement, but not flooding. It seeps into a couple of areas that are cracked. We have no gutters on our roof, so that doesn't help. The mold spores are driving me and DH crazy!

We're headed out to the garden soon to see how everything is holding up.

 

[Trish44]

We got rain last night as well & it's all muddy again. We were just starting to dry out a tad, but not now & we're supposed to have rain again tomorrow. At least with the straw in the growout pen the chicks got a little wet but weren't mired in gooey mud. The Lemon Cuckoos that got moved to the hoop coop yesterday were a little wet as well, but not muddy, so that's an improvement. Oh & my tarp stayed up so far on the growout pen so the water ran off instead of pooling, yay! I'm working on getting the door on the other end of the hoop coop this afternoon & just need to put on a couple pieces of wire to finish closing in the door & then I'll put some straw in that one & move the Lavender Orps in there this evening. Then I have to work on getting the small pen I moved the Lemon Cuckoos out of in the run cleaned out & move the two peachicks in there. They're getting way too big for the brooder, they keep trying to fly & knock their heads on the top all the time. They've been picking on chicks too & I will hopefully be hatching some chicks for someone soon so I will need that brooder for those.

One of the muscovy ducks was out again this morning, I counted & she wasn't in the pen so I started looking around & she had flown on top of the goat shelter & was perched up there. I guess at least she was safe in there, I would rather if she thinks she has to fly out that she would go there instead of walking around where she could get eaten at night. Last evening when I was trying to get birds fed I had put the ducks all back in the pen & turned around & one of them had flown out already & was following me around to all the pens. I guess she was telling me she wanted me to hurry up & get to theirs & feed them. HEChicken, even after all this time apart they still like to go sit outside the turkey pen & visit them. My DH just discovered I had the Ancona ducks last night, he doesn't pay all that much attention to what I have or don't have usually, but they were all out & he saw those 3 & asked me where I got them & what kind they were. He won't remember what I told him & next time he'll ask me again what kind of ducks they all are.

 

[chicken danz]

Well it looks like I should have stayed inside. I wasn't prepared for all the mess. First the yard is a lake. Secondly I found a half grown duck that had been bitten and was dead out by the duck pen. You could see teeth marks and blood on it's abdomen. I smelled a skunk out on that end of the yard. I just don't know if a skunk would do that. Anyone? The dogs were barking all night but I wonder if something came in when it was super storming out there. I've never had a skunk attack and don't know if they could kill a duck or not.
Then I walked to where the double hoop coop sits. I wasn't prepared for this at all. A huge chunk out of a big old elm tree had fallen down and smashed on top of my hoop coop. If it hadn't been for the coop part in the middle it would have smashed the entire things down. Only the strength of the frame saved it. So it's time for picture overload. It's hard to see the damage but it's unbelievable in person. Click on pictures to enlarge.

The big view.


A little more upclose of the damage


Other parts of the limbs that fell


Close damage. Look how the top and side is bent. That is some heavy stuff to bend like that.


Damage from the side so you can see how it bent the wire.


Luckily the chickens were okay. After a couple days of cutting wood I'll post pictures of the wire when you can see it better.
On top of this the duck pond which is near there over flowed so there is about a half inch of water sitting on the ground below the limbs.
Then I went out to the baby duck pen and found 3 dead ducks and two others that were stuck in the mud and couldn't get out. I have those two washed up and drying out. One of them was not doing well but the other should recover just fine.
All of the food is destroyed in the pens and the bowls have been filled with water. It's one of those days I just wish I just sat in the house and ate bon bons and watched the soaps or something.

 

[lizzyGSR]

The sulfa will take care of the bumblefoot, you just need to give it for a while, same thing with the baytril but the baytril is a LOT more expensive and giving an IM injection every day for 2-3 weeks or longer can make for one grumpy duck. You would have to separate her from the flock while she is being treated. It is also important that the foot stays clean and dry most of the time so keeping her in a crate on dry bedding would be ideal. I know its a total pain (first hand with my gander in a vari kennel!) but it is the only way to get it cleared up. If it doesn't start looking a lot better soon she could have something else going on like a foreign body in her foot.

Danz suggested giving the Baytril for 3 consecutive days. I was opting for that route because I wouldn't have to wait on shipping, but Baytril is pretty pricey ($10/cc). Is 3 consecutive days not enough for the Baytril? Also, how do you give a bird a shot? The vet suggested under the wing, but she admitted to me herself that she isn't real familiar with birds.

 

[OkieQueenBee]

Good grief Danz, sorry, I know the feeling after seeing our hen house upside down and all the related storm damage last week. Hang in there.

 

[chicken danz]

You give the shot in the breast muscle. Actually the recommended dosage is one time. Then followed by tablets for 5-10 days. The injectable works faster. But all I had to use was baytril injectable. I found an English site that said to use the injectable for 3 days. Since it is being used off label you have to go by what information you can find. If it were me I'd use it for 3 days and see how she is doing. If you feel she needs it, go to 5 days. I just bought whatever part of the bottle the vet had left and he charged me like $28 for it. It was about half full.
I used baytril on my goose for 3 days and he is doing great.
I think I am luckier than you Queen Bee. I didn't loose any birds and I don't have to turn it back upright. It is just going to look like crap now.