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Well, after 215 days of the gentle hum of the GQF Sportsman is quiet once again. The hatching season is over but the work is not. Still plenty of young ones to feed and find new homes for. OQB is adding up the numbers and varieties we hatched. I think next year we are going to use more broodies for hatching the peas but the incubators we used this year did a great job on everything else.

Yeah I have a couple of sets of eggs to go yet for myself & then mine will be shut down for the year as well. I had hoped to have it shut down before now, but oh well. I'm glad you stopped in, we miss you guys.

I see from the forecast we're going to have 3 more warmer days again. I guess that's preferable to winter, but I was liking the cooler weather. I have lots to get done before winter, lots of winterizing & cleaning pens & coops.
 
Well, after 215 days of the gentle hum of the GQF Sportsman is quiet once again. The hatching season is over but the work is not. Still plenty of young ones to feed and find new homes for. OQB is adding up the numbers and varieties we hatched. I think next year we are going to use more broodies for hatching the peas but the incubators we used this year did a great job on everything else.
 
I went last year and it was fabulous. It was in Lawrence last year and I attended both days. In the week prior to attending, I downloaded the schedule of workshops and highlighted the ones I wanted to attend, so when I arrived at the fair, I already had my weekend pretty much mapped out. What I found was that there was SOOOO much information being thrown at me that my brain got tired from taking it all in and I wound up skipping a couple of the workshops I had on my list because I was so tired and needed a veg break
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They had a really wide range of topics from animal husbandry to alternative energy to alternative health. I attended workshops most on things we are not already doing, as a form of research for what we might want to do in the future. For example, I didn't attend any of the chicken raising workshops because they were all geared towards getting started and I felt I had the basics down already. However I did attend Joel Salatin's processing demo. Although I'd also been processing for years, I'd learned it from YouTube and was interested to see someone doing it "live". He did provide a few tips that helped me tighten up my process so it was definitely worth it. Plus he was selling all the equipment you might possibly need and I got my turkey cone from him after the workshop.

I also attended some workshops on alternative energy as DH wanted me to look into what is possible for us. And I went to one on food preservation as well. They had a lot of vendors selling various wares and I got tons of heirloom seeds, mostly for $1/packet. They almost all did well in my garden this year.

The main thing lacking was availability of food. There were no food vendors except the sanctioned MEN cafeteria which was expensive. Also, there were no drink vendors except the cafeteria either and they only had bottled health drinks. All I wanted was water and there was NO water to be found anywhere at the fair - no drinking fountains, no-one selling bottled water. I didn't want their flavored health drinks so I wound up leaving the fair and walking into town to buy a bottle of water. Lesson learned. That night I stayed in a motel and next morning stopped at a convenience store on my way back to the fair, to arm myself with snacks and water for the second day.

I've looked at the list of speakers for this year and see several on there that I attended workshops from last year and can highly recommend. I also attended two workshops where the speakers may well have known their stuff but were not good speakers. I note that neither of them has been invited back this year so perhaps I'm not the only one who felt that way.

Oh - funny story. While waiting for one workshop to start, I got to chatting with the guy sitting next to me. He talked about how the MEN fairs have all been in locations he has previously lived so he has attended fairs all over the country. I really enjoyed conversing with him (which if anyone knows me, I am an introvert and usually don't appreciate people next to me striking up conversations). Anyway, the workshop got started and the speaker said he'd like to thank Bryan Welch, the editor of MEN for his tireless efforts to get the fair started in KS, and everyone applauded and I realized they were all looking at the guy sitting next to me!!! All that time I thought I was just chatting to another fair attendee and instead he was the one responsible for it happening!

Thank you for the review. It sounds like there would be lots to learn. I'd be interested in the alternative health, food preservation, and alternative energy (though I may never get to use that information). Funny story about your seat neighbor!
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Thought you all might enjoy pics of my new LGD puppy. He's a sweetie and doing well, staying out with the stock.


What a cutie!

On a less happy dog note, my big rescue, Red, killed a chicken while we were in town this afternoon. I thought I got all of them in the pen, but I missed on of the little EE's. I feel terrible about it. I counted them, and I just missed Skeeter. She has been a little off for the last week. Sitting fluffed up in the coop when it was cooler and then today apparently she was sitting next to the fence when I left.

When DH got home, he was standing over the body looking really guilty. Steve put him in and finished off the injured chicken. Her breast under her wing is a little chewed, but otherwise there wasn't much damage. He said her neck was broken but she was still breathing when he put her down.

He has done so well with them that I was beginning to trust him alone in the yard with them. Now I don't know what to do exactly. I zapped him with the shock collar when he went back to the scene of the crime (I put it on especially for that -- haven't used it in weeks). Dang.

Anyone have any suggestions? Now that he has tasted blood, it could be a bigger problem.

I'm sorry about your bird. When we got our first few, we knew we would never trust our hunting breed dogs around them, but Gypsy still got through the fence and killed one of the youngsters. I hope you can work something out.

Well our poor Okie chicken today, you know the one with the crooked beak, well when I was trying to catch our brahma chicken I found him dead in the run. He was off hidden in the weeds but his head was mangled badly. I told mom I couldn't do it, you know getting near the poor boy. It was just awful. Mom thinks a hawk or something came down and gave him a good blow and he kinda ran around well like a chicken with his head cut off and just ended up in the run. He was quite bloody though it just kinda broke my heart.
Any Ideas about how a bird might tear their ear lobe? One of our younger hens had torn their earlobe and I'm not quite sure how it happened.

I'm sorry about your Okie. I don't know how that would have happened, but your Mom's theory makes sense.

@HEChicken

Yes, I agree. The reviews seem pretty authentic. If you read them they paint an honest picture of what you can expect from the results (mixed) and the customer support from the seller (excellent and responsive).

I'm dying of curiosity about Red. He's a BIG dog. Of course with the chicken trauma yesterday, we are going to have to change the rules about yard access, but we will work it out. I'll just have to supervise him more closely, and he is such a slug-a-bed that he doesn't spend much time outside anyway.


LOL! That's a great picture. Gypsy likes to sprawl out like that, too, but she's ready to hop up and go instantly.
 
On a less happy dog note, my big rescue, Red, killed a chicken while we were in town this afternoon. I thought I got all of them in the pen, but I missed on of the little EE's. I feel terrible about it. I counted them, and I just missed Skeeter. She has been a little off for the last week. Sitting fluffed up in the coop when it was cooler and then today apparently she was sitting next to the fence when I left.

When DH got home, he was standing over the body looking really guilty. Steve put him in and finished off the injured chicken. Her breast under her wing is a little chewed, but otherwise there wasn't much damage. He said her neck was broken but she was still breathing when he put her down.

He has done so well with them that I was beginning to trust him alone in the yard with them. Now I don't know what to do exactly. I zapped him with the shock collar when he went back to the scene of the crime (I put it on especially for that -- haven't used it in weeks). Dang.

Anyone have any suggestions? Now that he has tasted blood, it could be a bigger problem.
Sharol, Red is still young. I am guessing he was bored because you weren't home and played too hard. I'd continue monitoring him with a shock collar. I think that is a mistake a lot of people do. They give up on first offense. Keep shocking him and give him exposure to the chickens while you can watch him and zap him good if he even looks cross eyed at them. I think you'll be able to tell in a short time if it was a mistake out of boredom or a one time whoops. I couldn't tolerate a dog that killed chickens but we make mistakes and so do they.
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I'd sure like to shut mine down. But alas I can't ever seem to do it. The last of the peafowl eggs are due next week but some of my new birds are starting to lay so I guess it'll keep running. It's only been 4 years since I had them all shut off.
 
Sharol, Red is still young. I am guessing he was bored because you weren't home and played too hard. I'd continue monitoring him with a shock collar. I think that is a mistake a lot of people do. They give up on first offense. Keep shocking him and give him exposure to the chickens while you can watch him and zap him good if he even looks cross eyed at them. I think you'll be able to tell in a short time if it was a mistake out of boredom or a one time whoops. I couldn't tolerate a dog that killed chickens but we make mistakes and so do they.
Thanks for the encouragement. That is the plan. I think you are right about being bored. I've been monitoring him this morning, and he doesn't seem interested in anything but their poo.

He likes to follow them around and wait for them to poop. Once in a while he accidentally gooses one with his cold nose causing a squawk and flutter from the offended chicken. Of course that sounds like a game to him. I still have hopes that he will be ok with them on a limited basis. since I don't leave the chickens out when I'm gone, missing that one yesterday was outside the norm for him. He doesn't get to follow them around anymore.

I really think if I make absolutely sure they are in when we are gone he will be OK. Fingers crossed.
 
@sharol sorry about your incident. If it helps any, we have a Border Collie mix that killed 7 guineas in 3 min at a friends house. He is extremely well trained but on this day he lost it. Well when I got chickens I was terrified he would do it again. He was very curious but we scolded him (he responds to a snap) every time he looked at them. After a few weeks I forgot to latch the gate and he pushed it open and he followed me in
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He laid down and ever since has been fine around the birds. So moral of the story is that one kill is not necessarily the end, he just has to learn that the chickens belong there and are part of the pack!

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Your LGD is adorable.

ON another note I have a question for fellow Kansans. I have a hen named Rebal Dottie (named due to her inability to follow the pecking order and her love of breaking the rules. I often find her in the garden, on the porch or in the front yard!). Well Dottie went broody awhile back and co-brooded a small clutch with my Wyandotte. After the babies hatched Dottie lost interest after about 3 days and the Wyandotte finished the rearing. Now she has been setting for about four days, I have been removing the eggs thus far. My question is, do you guys think that she is just going to be a bad mother or should I give her the benefit of the doubt that she stepped down due to the other hen being pushy?
 
I'm guessing the other hen won out. I've had that happen several times and one hen always seems to win or they split the chicks. Let her sit on her own eggs and give it a try. You have nothing to loose but a few eggs in the process.
HEChicken I see you are selling your incubators. I wonder why. It's really non of my business. Are you going to let broodies do all your hatching now? I wish I had the funds, I'd buy that Rcon for my daughter. She only broody hatches. But right now all my money is being poored into the building.
I went to Topeka yesterday and spent another $140 on plumbing connections. I'm certainly not saving money using pex but I like the way I can adapt it to my plans. I guess the truth is in the mix when I get it hooked up and pressurized.
 
[COLOR=0000FF]Yeah I have a couple of sets of eggs to go yet for myself & then mine will be shut down for the year as well. I had hoped to have it shut down before now, but oh well. I'm glad you stopped in, we miss you guys.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000FF]I see from the forecast we're going to have 3 more warmer days again. I guess that's preferable to winter, but I was liking the cooler weather. I have lots to get done before winter, lots of winterizing & cleaning pens & coops.[/COLOR]

I'm the opposite. I'm loving the warmer weather again! :weee winter in NOT my favorite season!! {{SHIVER}} We've had such massive temperature swings that I've noticed a number of my animals sneezing. :(
 
I have mentioned before about my Mottled Java hen and her brood of white guinea chicks. As they are now almost grown and all were roosting off of the ground, I separated the hen and put her in with a Mottled Java rooster. Last night when I did my nightly check, 9 of the white guineas were roosting on top of the pen that held the Mottled Javas; that are several pens away from their home pen, and the top of the Java pen is only three feet high. They have been free ranging for several weeks, but have always returned to roost in their own pen. So I guess if you want guineas and chickens to co-exist, then start the guineas out with a broody hen.
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My 3.5 wk old BR chicks are really changing fast.

I have 2 like the one on the left (less wing feathering) and the 1 on the right. Is the one on the right the pullet? The difference is dramatic.
 

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