Consolidated Kansas

[chicken danz]

Just looking form this angle I think I see at least two cockerels. Take pictures of the side and back views of them and if you could get at least two standing together that would help. Looks like a lot of combs for pullets.

 

[chicken danz]

@SidChick I raise show quality brahmas but not accepted APA colors. They can be shown but would only be eligible to win Best of Breed. I just sold out all the braham chicks I had but could always hatch some. If you want them for this year you need to find one at least 4 months old.

 

[SidChick]

@SidChick I raise show quality brahmas but not accepted APA colors. They can be shown but would only be eligible to win Best of Breed. I just sold out all the braham chicks I had but could always hatch some. If you want them for this year you need to find one at least 4 months old.

Do you have a website?

 

[Plinky]

Hello all, I'll try to post pics of our Leghorn.
Here is a look at her bottom. Yesterday I did soak her bottom and put a bit of vaseline thinking it might help keep the poop from sticking. There was a lot. Today much less, but feathers scraggly due to vaseline, I think. Hard to get a good photo of area!


here is her foot. even dirty, today the center dot is much more present and so I think it is bumblefoot and will try to treat as per info found obviously not as aggressively because there is no real scab at this point, I think, just the beginning of one.


Here is her whitened comb


sparse feathers on head around comb


hard to shoot, but against background of grass you can see the kind of worn look to the ends of feathers, seems to be mostly around neck.


I am thinking vitamin deficiency from what I've read (also considering Danz' comments about the wood eating), perhaps caused by worms. I bought Strike 3 (could not find the other mentioned by Trish). I called manu. because there was no info about how LONG to treat. Was told 16 DAYS! They said no egg withdrawal, but I'm not sure I want to risk having some contamination of the eggs.
Planning to also to use nutridrench, yogurt, garlic, vinegar, oregano oil, turmeric...all the natural stuff to try to build up immune system.

Comments appreciated!

 

[Plinky]

I just saw the bottom photo did not load into message but is in the thumbnail box. Doesn't show much, though.

 

[chicken danz]

I just saw the bottom photo did not load into message but is in the thumbnail box. Doesn't show much, though.

The spot on the foot doesn't look like bumblefoot yet but could easily become that. I would put oregano oil on it for a couple weeks and see if it cleared. It looks to me like your hen has chicken mites. I think I can see some lice knits on the feathers. The only way to rid her of them is to spray her under each wing and on the vent area with Permectrin II and water or to mix it as a dip and just dip her. No rinsing. If she has them so does the rest of the flock. I just normally fix a bucket of lukewarm water and glug some permectrin in it and dip the chickens up to the neck. It's fastest and easiest for me and gets the whole chicken except the head. No egg withdrawal and no rinsing. Since it is a first treatment I would repeat in 10 days and also mix up a spray and spray the hen house concentrating on seams where boards come together.
Unfortunately you have two choices. Deal with a few days of egg withdrawal for worms or let your chickens die eventually from anemia from them. All those natural remedies are great at prevention but they won't eliminate them once they have them. The natural remedies make the internal areas less friendly for the parasites to inhabit but once they are there they are there. I am against using chemicals as much as I can be but there is a point you use them or suffer the consequences. I have however forgotten about worming and eaten the eggs with no ill side effects. I haven't used the wormer Trish does and don't remember if hers had a withdrawal time. I have too many birds to feed to afford that kind of wormer.

Do you have a website?

Do you have a website?[/QUOTE]
I have one but it is far from finished. Due to some medical problems and other things going on I haven't been able to finish it. My camera broke and it hasn't been replaced. I'm dealing with my severely injured sister right now too so time is not available to do much of anything. What were you wanting? I may have some old pictures some where if that is what you were wanting.

 

[Plinky]

Thank you very much Danz. Intelligent words.
This morning I looked at Pinky the Leghorn's foot and there was even more of a scab on one foot and the other foot looked the way that one did yesterday. So I decided to make a premptive strike! Soaked feet in epsom salts water. Cleaned bottom pads with betadine. put a big glob of multi-antibiotic ointment on under a cotton pad and then wrapped with vet wrap as per videos watched. Amazed at how bird went to sleep wrapped in a towel under my arm! trimmed toenails while I was at it. Gave a half dropper of nutridrench.
I am going ahead with the Strike 3 wormer. Even though they say there is no egg withdrawl I probably won't eat them. Have a backlog anyway. But 16 days of treatment!
I will also treat for mites, but honestly I do check often and have never seen anything on any of them, but I trust Danz' trained eye.
Will post pic of Pinky in blue "socks"!

 

[chicken danz]

I posted that incorrectly. Didn't mean to say mites, but meant chicken lice. The nits show they are there. It seems that wet weather, especially cooler weather gets them started. We had a very wet and cool spring so they had a good chance of just infecting everything. Plus all the migratory birds could have brought some in as well.
Bumblefoot is actually a staph infection that forms if the foot has been injured. I think you are on the right path. If you can heal the sores before the staph starts in it she should recover. Of course it's so hard to see everything in pictures. I've had very few cases of bumble foot and I think that is because I have low roosts. But I've also had a couple where the bumble foot ate completely through the birds' foot, and the core fell out. When that happened it was gone for good. The surgery never seems to quite eliminate it. It's nearly impossible to be sure you have every last bit of the bacteria. I have used penicillin G shots in the foot which seem to work the best for killing the staph. Of course staph is very prone to becoming a super bug so it may work once but never work again.

 

[Prairie Fleur]

Thank you very much Danz. Intelligent words.
This morning I looked at Pinky the Leghorn's foot and there was even more of a scab on one foot and the other foot looked the way that one did yesterday. So I decided to make a premptive strike! Soaked feet in epsom salts water. Cleaned bottom pads with betadine. put a big glob of multi-antibiotic ointment on under a cotton pad and then wrapped with vet wrap as per videos watched. Amazed at how bird went to sleep wrapped in a towel under my arm! trimmed toenails while I was at it. Gave a half dropper of nutridrench.
I am going ahead with the Strike 3 wormer. Even though they say there is no egg withdrawl I probably won't eat them. Have a backlog anyway. But 16 days of treatment!
I will also treat for mites, but honestly I do check often and have never seen anything on any of them, but I trust Danz' trained eye.
Will post pic of Pinky in blue "socks"!

Btw oregano oil diluted in another oil is ideal for treating staph infections. Works to give internally as well and it's one of the most powerful antibiotics out there without the risk of resistance. I use it all the time for myself and my animals but you want to get the Organic Wild Mediteranean Oregano Oil. It has the highest level of active ingredient. I've gotten rid of a lot of nasty stuff with it. Manuka honey is really good antibacterial ointment and it speeds healing too. Just some ideas that I've used that have worked well for me and my critters in case you're interested.
The Wild Mediteranean oregano oil is Really potent tho and has to be diluted in a carrier oil. It burns; I know from experience!! I also use it in a bowl of hot water when I clean a wound or soak it or whatever.

 

[chicken danz]

I use oregano oil for myself and my animals. I have saved a few birds whom would have otherwise died for sure without it. I was using it full strength but recently got some that you do have to have a carrier with. I told Trish that it wasn't necessary to dilute it cause I've used it for all kinds of things for a couple years and not had to. I had used it on my own wounds and it burnt but not for that long.
But I got some very expensive pure oil from India and it will literally burn your skin straight without a carrier. Actually it's great because I can get a lot more from it as strong as it is.