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Here is a more detailed description of my electronic control scheme.

WARNING! If you are not interested in this kind of thing, don't read on, it will be very boring.

The PLC computer is a little brick box that accepts data from various sensors like temperature sensors, float switches, optical sensors, and force (weight) sensors. The input data is then analyzed by the computer and will activate things like automatic valves, lighting, heating and cooling devices, and alarm devices like lights and horns. The unit also has the ability to automatically modify the way it responds to various conditions based on the needs of the operator. I chose these examples because they are what I am employing in my chicken house. There is an infinite amount of I/O devices that can be used with these things. Almost all manufacturing plants these days have these. The more advanced units have SCADA capability. This stands for Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition. What this does is allow data trending, remote control, remote alarm notification, and even remote manual control of the system through the Internet, e-mail, text message, and smart phone apps.

The PLC computer will be connected to an RS485 transceiver pair that will connect to a computer in my house. I'm doing this because the chicken house is about 300 feet from the human house and running data cables is too costly. The transceiver will be connected to a computer that acts as a webserver and an SMS gateway. This way I will have a website that I can view all of the conditions of the chicken house and even modify some of the actions of the PLC through any web connected computer in the world. It will also send time-based emails and text messages showing the conditions of the chicken house. This will include water level, food level, temperature, heating or ventilation status, and any system alarms. The alarms will also be sent to me via email and text message on an event-triggered basis.

The feeder(s) will have infrared optical sensors mounted in them that will sense the level of the food. An alarm will be sent when the level reaches 25%. I considered using auger motors from a feed bin to refill but this is an overkill.

The waterers will have float switches that will sense the level of the water. An alarm will be sent when the level reaches 25%. This is not likely to happen as refilling will be done automatically.

The ventilation fan will have an airflow sensor that will sense whether the fan is operating. If the PLC tells the fan to run, but for some reason it does not move any air, an alarm will be sent.

The power chicken door will have a linear actuator that opens and closes it. A photosensor will detect when it is light or dark outside. The PLC will take the data from the previous day and make a decision of when to open or close the door. This will also be used to turn on the interior lights to coax the chickens into the chicken house when it gets dark. The door will have limit switches on it to determine if the door is open or closed. If the actuator fails, the PLC will send an alarm if the door does not fully open or close after the command is sent to open or close it.

The temperature sensor will tell the fans or heating lamps to turn on. If all of the birds are feathered out, the heating can be eliminated easily through an input command via text message or local operator interface. An alarm will be sent if the ventilation or heating fails to bring the temperature to an acceptable level.

I am also working on a system that will use a combination of motion sensors and barrier beam sensors to determine if a predator is trying to gain entry to the chicken house. An alarm will be sent and various anti-predatory measures will be put into place like exterior lighting and water jets.

Finally, I am considering an irrigation-type shallow well that will provide water to the chickens. Our water table is pretty high here, and I can hit water at about 30 feet. At this depth, you can use a "driven" well instead of hiring out a drilling rig. I don't have live water out to the chicken house, so without the well I will have to haul water. (Suck)

If you made it this far, give me your comments and suggestions.

Mike
 
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It is high tech. some of it I like and would like to do myself.

I use 5 gallon buckets for watering in the winter and I feel any more than 3 nipples would be to many and the chickens would have trouble getting to the nipples (mine is against the wall and I have Orpingtons and Sussex on it. If it was out in the middle or the coop/run I think 4 would work.

If you want a nipple in pipe system you could look into something like this http://www.tycothermal.com/usa/engl...336&nm=WinterGard+Retro+In-Pipe+Heating+Cable.

I use the nipple and pipe system in the warm months.
 
I'm getting ready to rebuild a barn into a chicken barn. I'm afraid it won't be as high tech as yours, but it should be very functional. I think I will go with the nipple/pipe system, too, at least for the warm months. I haven't decided what my winter system should be.

bnjmik-Were you the one looking for some laying hens? I have some I would sell. They are nice hens and are currently laying. I have buff orpington (2) black jersey giant 3 or 4 I would sell, a few black copper marans and some white leghorns that are egg laying machines. There isn't anything wrong with any of them, and they are exactly one year old (prime!). I am just trying to make room for my new chicks that will be coming in the mail and the ones I am hatching.

You can PM me if you are interested. I think I'm not too far from you. I am east of Hiawatha.
 
Its snowing here covering the ground:barnie I thought I had purchased enough merchandice from the special interest groups that the current parties would have taken care of this snow! Why isnt my Tax dollar being earned????
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:lau Yeah I had fun writing that!
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Mike
 
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I am a little worried about the horizontal spacing. I'm not exactly sure what the dimension is because I built the roost in place. I was trying to keep them reasonably close together because I'm worried the high angle (60-degrees) will prevent the chickens from getting to the next rung up once I clip their wings. I think the vertical spacing is about 18 inches.

I will probably just let it go this year and if there is too many s#!t heads in there due to the spacing, I will reconfigure the roost altogether for next year.
 
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I am a little worried about the horizontal spacing. I'm not exactly sure what the dimension is because I built the roost in place. I was trying to keep them reasonably close together because I'm worried the high angle (60-degrees) will prevent the chickens from getting to the next rung up once I clip their wings. I think the vertical spacing is about 18 inches.

I will probably just let it go this year and if there is too many s#!t heads in there due to the spacing, I will reconfigure the roost altogether for next year.

Michael why will you be clipping their wings? You might wanna rethink that. Its always nice to be able for them to get away from dogs cats nextdoor neighbors and from an aireil assult.

Just my two cents from experience
 
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Okay, I'm happy tonight. I started the clean up and demolition process on the old barn that is half blown down. I can actually see a lot of progress and am a lot more confident that we can get this project done this summer. The new barn erected in it's place will be my new poultry barn. It will house all of my breeders. I have a separate coop and run for my layers, and they free range during the day. The leghorns kept me company most of the time I was working out there, scratching around and exploring. They previously could not get into the old barn due to the fencing and welded wire we had around it. I'm sure they will be back in there tomorrow, as will I. Once I get the remaining roof down, the rest of the demolition will be a cinch.... I hope.
 
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I am a little worried about the horizontal spacing. I'm not exactly sure what the dimension is because I built the roost in place. I was trying to keep them reasonably close together because I'm worried the high angle (60-degrees) will prevent the chickens from getting to the next rung up once I clip their wings. I think the vertical spacing is about 18 inches.

I will probably just let it go this year and if there is too many s#!t heads in there due to the spacing, I will reconfigure the roost altogether for next year.

Michael why will you be clipping their wings? You might wanna rethink that. Its always nice to be able for them to get away from dogs cats nextdoor neighbors and from an aireil assult.

Just my two cents from experience

I may rethink clipping the wings given the right reason. The reason I want to clip their wings is this... I am trying to automate as much of the chicken house as possible. I work in the city and I have a new baby, so my time at home is very limited. By automating the chicken door to the run, amongst other things, I won't have to spend nearly as much time with them. That said, my fence is about 4 feet tall at its shortest point (there are some 6 foot sections in the run). If I don't clip their wings, I'm worried they can escape the run and without me around to catch them, I could lose some birds. The computer will coax the birds in at night with lighting then shut the door automatically so night-time predators should be a minimal issue here. The run is so big that I can't justify covering it with wire over the top. The run is larger than my house, maybe 2500 square feet or more. With the birds coming in at night and a predator deterrent system, I shouldn't have much trouble with predators. The issue is the fence in the run. Any thoughts here?
 

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