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Ok there are points I agree with and others which I don't. I'm not trying to start a war here either. Just trying to clarify. Everyone of you that sells chicks or buys chicks gets them from somewhere. If you don't change your bloodlines, mother nature will make unhealthy chicks. If you produce chicks who the heck is going to buy them if it's not safe to buy local chicks? Being on BYC doesn't guarantee by any means that your birds are healthy. I think it's a double standard you are promoting. You say don't buy; but you want to sell. I would much rather buy from a local breeder where I can check out the breeder birds and the facilities than chance buying from Orshlems or someplace like that. Mainly because they use the same pens over and over without sanitizing them, and there's no guarantee that one of the past or current chicks didn't have coccidiosis. AT least the hatcheries are regulated and bound by law to sanitize everything.
I think many of you are scaring Hawkeye needlessly. Surely she can look at a bird and tell if it is healthy or not especially if she looks at the other birds and how they are kept. Yes I would quarantine a bird from Seymore for at least a month. Hawkeye you won't be able to put older birds with your chicks. If I were going to buy from these people I would ask if they would have some chicks hatching about the time yours were going to arrive....after you go look things over. Go take a look at their birds and facilities. Use common sense. NPIP testing doesn't guarantee healthy birds but if someone goes to the expense and trouble to do it it probably means they care about having healthy stock. Besides it is the law that birds be tested, not that most people abide by it. If it is a hobby farmer I woudn't worry about it. I think more importantly you should ask what people feed their birds. A hobby farmer is probably the best people to buy from. They don't have large numbers of birds where they would miss something if a bird got sick. Here I am shooting myself in the foot because I have lots and lots of birds, but I care for them and monitor them. I don't just mass produce chicks without caring for my adults.
 
Hi, Everyone!

I've been in Phoenix for weeks and I'm getting on a plane in a few minutes to head home. I'll have to look at all I've missed, since I haven't had a chance to really read or reply to anything- I did see someone is looking for Silkies, and if mine are laying when I get home (I hear the weather has changed dramatically) I'll be able to cough up some chicks in about 3 or 4 weeks!

I am waaaaaaay behind in looking at the posts, and I'll be caught up soon. Hope everyone is doing well and I'll check in soon! Miss you guys!
 
Ok on the turkey thing I would not put anything with a turkey they can carry lots of nasty stuff and never show it their whole life, but within days of putting chickens with them, every chicken will be sick. The main disese they carry is blackhead. Chickens are this way with quail. Differnt species have differnt immunity levels to certain diseses. And as far as private birds vs. "store bought" I know ALOT of private breeders that have much healthier birds than some named farm stores. Hope you girls have a good day I'll be back tonight.
 
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I never told her not to buy...just to take precautions if she did. Not promoting a double standard at all. I sell birds and I'd never advise someone to take them home and just dump them in with the birds they already have anymore than I would do that with a new bird. I have too much time and money invested in my birds to ever risk doing that. Even back when I just had hatchery mutts I didn't introduce new birds into my flock. Just not worth the risk to me.

I have to disagree that a hobby farmer is the best person to buy from. Those are the ones I see buying birds willy nilly at the poultry auctions and combining birds from different buyers in the same cages. No telling what all illnesses you'll drag home from their birds.

No, you can't really look at a bird and know that it's healthy....a carrier bird can look perfectly healthy and infect your whole flock and never show signs of illness themselves.

There are breeders that haven't brought in new blood for decades and their birds are perfectly healthy....it's called line breeding.

In all my years of having poultry I've never had an outbreak of disease. I firmly believe it's because of the precautions I take. If you were to come to buy birds from me you'd be disappointed that I have a no one in the pens rule. You can observe them from a distance, but no one, especially someone who has poultry is allowed near my birds.
 
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YES, YES, YES!!!!!!! I want silkie chicks!!!!!
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Thank you!!! Well I would feel much better buying from you. Whew! And by that time, my own little chicks will be here and I could brood them separately if need be... or can I put them in with my babies that are being shipped at the same time? If not, no biggie, since it would be easier separating out chicks vs adult birds.
 
So someone put a bug in my ear about a different coop design. I still haven't committed to the build yet, and I need to soon before it gets too cold. As I said earlier I was thinking of a wooden deep litter structure. This other design is a hoop coop with plastic or tarp over the top and most of one end while the other is left open, with mesh and a door. I'm concerned this doesn't really winter very well. Anybody have experience with these?
 

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