Corid, sulfa, wazine, valbazen help!

[dawg53]

Does anybody know what a "light" load or "heavy" load of worms is? Does it matter?
Meanwhile what are the worms doing to the chickens internally whether it's two worms or ten thousand worms?
How many eggs does one female large roundworm lay in one day?

Worms weaken the chickens immune system opening the door for every kind of disease to infect our birds. Therefore you associate symptoms with whatever disease you think it is and mistakenly treat those symptoms when the root cause is worms. Worms slowly starve a chicken to death and their excretions in the chickens system is toxic and enough of it will kill a chicken.
We worm dogs and cats monthly. Chickens are more susceptible picking up worm eggs than cats or dogs, because chickens constantly peck the soil. In doing so, they swallow worm eggs. Take a look at the worms direct life cycle and you'll see.

You dont need a fecal float test when you see worms in feces if you're using safeguard, valbazen or pyrantel pamoate because these wormers take care of the ones you see in feces and the ones you dont see in feces...with very few exceptions.
Use the money you'd spend on a fecal float test and buy a 125ml bottle of safeguard liquid goat wormer for the same price and worm your birds.

 

[Jjdesmo11]

You're getting lots of good advice here, Jjdesmo11, but I just wanted to add that the worms in the photo on your post #47 look like cecal worms to me...I recently used Safeguard liquid goat dewormer (fenbendazole) on my birds to treat a light load after confirming worm type with a fecal float test.

Thanks! I initially did wazine and the whole poop looked like spaghetti, pretty disgusting and sad that I didn’t think to worm sooner. That was 5 days ago. Then I gave her valbazen I think 2 days ago and still seeing worms, then bloody poop this morning. Poor girl is going through a lot. I hav safeguard but will redose valbazen 10 days after first dose. Just such a mess but I’m thankful for the help!

 

[Jjdesmo11]

Does anybody know what a "light" load or "heavy" load of worms is? Does it matter?
Meanwhile what are the worms doing to the chickens internally whether it's two worms or ten thousand worms?
How many eggs does one female large roundworm lay in one day?

Worms weaken the chickens immune system opening the door for every kind of disease to infect our birds. Therefore you associate symptoms with whatever disease you think it is and mistakenly treat those symptoms when the root cause is worms. Worms slowly starve a chicken to death and their excretions in the chickens system is toxic and enough of it will kill a chicken.
We worm dogs and cats monthly. Chickens are more susceptible picking up worm eggs than cats or dogs, because chickens constantly peck the soil. In doing so, they swallow worm eggs. Take a look at the worms direct life cycle and you'll see.

You dont need a fecal float test when you see worms in feces if you're using safeguard, valbazen or pyrantel pamoate because these wormers take care of the ones you see in feces and the ones you dont see in feces...with very few exceptions.
Use the money you'd spend on a fecal float test and buy a 125ml bottle of safeguard liquid goat wormer for the same price and worm your birds.

. Thank you so much! I almost bought one of those fecal floats but thought why spend 35$ if I’m going to worm either way. Btw I did wazine after seeing visible roundworms, then valbazen but it was only 3 days after wazine because I was worried about her, and still seeing occasional worm in poop. I plan to follow up 10 days after first Valbazen tx with valbazen again. Or would you suggest safeguard? have both. Then of course If bloody stool I’ll do corid again. I’m just curious if this puffed sluggish behavior is normal for passing all these worms and if it’s necessary to keep her isolated. She’s still eating, drinking fine and currently just giving probiotics and vitamins

 

[dawg53]

. Thank you so much! I almost bought one of those fecal floats but thought why spend 35$ if I’m going to worm either way. Btw I did wazine after seeing visible roundworms, then valbazen but it was only 3 days after wazine because I was worried about her, and still seeing occasional worm in poop. I plan to follow up 10 days after first Valbazen tx with valbazen again. Or would you suggest safeguard? have both. Then of course If bloody stool I’ll do corid again. I’m just curious if this puffed sluggish behavior is normal for passing all these worms and if it’s necessary to keep her isolated. She’s still eating, drinking fine and currently just giving probiotics and vitamins

No need to use the safeguard. Stick with the valbazen and reworm as you planned.

 

[TheLaboratoryBF]

Does anybody know what a "light" load or "heavy" load of worms is? Does it matter?
Meanwhile what are the worms doing to the chickens internally whether it's two worms or ten thousand worms?
How many eggs does one female large roundworm lay in one day?

Worms weaken the chickens immune system opening the door for every kind of disease to infect our birds. Therefore you associate symptoms with whatever disease you think it is and mistakenly treat those symptoms when the root cause is worms. Worms slowly starve a chicken to death and their excretions in the chickens system is toxic and enough of it will kill a chicken.
We worm dogs and cats monthly. Chickens are more susceptible picking up worm eggs than cats or dogs, because chickens constantly peck the soil. In doing so, they swallow worm eggs. Take a look at the worms direct life cycle and you'll see.

You dont need a fecal float test when you see worms in feces if you're using safeguard, valbazen or pyrantel pamoate because these wormers take care of the ones you see in feces and the ones you dont see in feces...with very few exceptions.
Use the money you'd spend on a fecal float test and buy a 125ml bottle of safeguard liquid goat wormer for the same price and worm your birds.

To answer your first question (although I'm pretty sure it was rhetorical), I think parasitologists know what a light and heavy load are as they use similar descriptors in their reports (at least they did in mine).

Secondly, I wasn't suggesting OP needs a float test since their bird(s) obviously have worms as evidenced by the photo(s) posted; was simply noting my individual experience. If someone suspects worms but doesn't actually see any physical evidence, a float test can help avoid unnecessary deworming if no worms are present.

 

[TheLaboratoryBF]

Thanks! I initially did wazine and the whole poop looked like spaghetti, pretty disgusting and sad that I didn’t think to worm sooner. That was 5 days ago. Then I gave her valbazen I think 2 days ago and still seeing worms, then bloody poop this morning. Poor girl is going through a lot. I hav safeguard but will redose valbazen 10 days after first dose. Just such a mess but I’m thankful for the help!

I missed where you said you were dosing Valbazen; that should take care of just about every worm they might have. Hope your girl is feeling better soon.

 

[casportpony]

. If someone suspects worms but doesn't actually see any physical evidence, a float test can help avoid unnecessary deworming if no worms are present

I am not against having fecal floats and people should get them, but people need to remember that false negative fecals are common, so one can't assume that their bird does not have worms after just one fecal float.

 

[Jjdesmo11]

Bloody poop this morning. Started corid. Can I give Tylan with it @casportpony or should I hold off

 

[Jjdesmo11]

Also she loves watching the kids play video games. She handles being a house chicken like a champ

 

[casportpony]

Bloody poop this morning. Started corid. Can I give Tylan with it @casportpony or should I hold off

You can give at the same time.