Corid treatment/ coccidiosis

[Crashlee12]

Hi! First of all, thanks for reading and responding, and may you all have happy holidays!

Certain I have a severe coccidiosis outbreak. I have lost 3 very healthy hens and two chicks. I noticed their vent areas were dirty. I wormed them with SafeGuard ten days apart as instructed. No change. Then I noticed their stools were getting worse. Runny, mucous, frothy, gross. Then my favorite hen died and I was a wreck. A few days later, I saw blood in some stool droppings. Drops, not frank red blood, but not intestinal shedding either. It was like I pricked my finger and dropped two drops of fresh blood on top of the poop. I treated a sever outbreak x 7 days (10cc per gallon of water), the next 7 days I did 5cc per gallon. I’ve cleaned everything, which I did weekly anyway. My flock is about 100 birds and they are free range completely and let themselves into and out of the barn as the wish (I have an Anatolian who lives in the barn with them so they are predator safe). They have been about 2 weeks off treatment and now the seem worse. I’ve noticed more blood, more nasty poops and some of my hens are losing weight. I’ve totally separated everyone and cooped them separately to ensure better biosecurity while we work through this.

My question: can I treat them again? I don’t want to overdose them and cause them to bleed out or other things that an overdose can do.

 

[Debbie292d]

So sorry for your losses.

Yes, you are advised to repeat the Corid in 5-7 days if symptoms persist. Make sure you don't give them any vitamins while they're on it.

Hopefully, this works!

 

[Crashlee12]

So sorry for your losses.

Yes, you are advised to repeat the Corid in 5-7 days if symptoms persist. Make sure you don't give them any vitamins while they're on it.

Hopefully, this works!


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Ms. Debbie, thank you for your response and keeping my post active! I followed these very instructions 2 and 3 weeks ago. I treated everyone for the severe outbreak. I did a week of 10cc/ gal and then a week of 5cc/ gal. That ended a bit over a week ago and during treatment my egg production tripled and all my combs got bright red again. They’ve been off treatment for a bit over a week and I have noticed one bird sleeping and fluffed up, and more watery poop and today I noticed bright red blood again. My question is can I repeat this treatment now that everyone is separated and cooped? It seems as soon as I get them better, one or two get sick. I just don’t want to OD them.

They’ve all been wormed, they’ve all been sprayed for mites and lice with elector psp. So coccidiosis has to be the issue. All their symptoms match. It just seems like the treatment worked for a bit then they rebounded.

 

[Debbie292d]

is there a chance it’s wet where they’ve been?
It’s unusual older ones, especially free rangers get it because they’ve built up immunities.

When mine got coccidiosis, it was from putting young, unexposed birds right from brooder to a growout pen we’d just had other chicks in. They got a double whammy with not just the new exposure to dirt and grass but also the poop of the previous ones. And it had just rained, which exacerbated the issues.

Corid is a safe product so I’d not worry about treating them again for it. I don’t know your setup if the sick ones could be separated but I would just treat them all to be sure. it’s not going to hurt any of them that don’t have coccidiosis if they get Corid.

Be sure after the 5-7 days of treatment are done that you follow-up with vitamins as Corid depletes their Thiamine (B1).

Hopefully, this will be the end of it!

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I wormed them with SafeGuard ten days apart as instructed.

Drops, not frank red blood, but not intestinal shedding either. It was like I pricked my finger and dropped two drops of fresh blood on top of the poop. I treated a sever outbreak x 7 days (10cc per gallon of water), the next 7 days I did 5cc per gallon.

They have been about 2 weeks off treatment and now the seem worse. I’ve noticed more blood, more nasty poops and some of my hens are losing weight.

You've already given an outbreak and follow-up treatment with the Corid (Amprolium). I would get some Toltrazuril (Endcox) or use a Sulfa Antibiotic to treat them if they are still having issues. (Links Below).

Photos of the poop and birds may be helpful. Are the birds new to your property or??

You treated with Safeguard once, then repeated in 10days. If using Safeguard Liquid Goat Dewormer (10%) at a rate of 0.23ml per pound of weight given orally then the once, then repeat should treat Roundworms Only. If you were wishing to treat other worms that poultry can have except for Tapeworms, give the Safeguard Liquid Goat dewormer to each bird orally at a rate of 0.23ml per pound of weight for 5 days in a row, no repeat.

If it's possible, take a sampling of poop to your vet or if you have a state lab nearby, get a fecal float to see if that will give you more information.

https://jedds.com/products/endocox-powder?_pos=1&_sid=ca7fa7c40&_ss=r

https://jedds.com/products/trimethoprin-sulfa-medpet?_pos=2&_psq=sulf&_ss=e&_v=1.0

 

[Crashlee12]

You've already given an outbreak and follow-up treatment with the Corid (Amprolium). I would get some Toltrazuril (Endcox) or use a Sulfa Antibiotic to treat them if they are still having issues. (Links Below).

Photos of the poop and birds may be helpful. Are the birds new to your property or??

You treated with Safeguard once, then repeated in 10days. If using Safeguard Liquid Goat Dewormer (10%) at a rate of 0.23ml per pound of weight given orally then the once, then repeat should treat Roundworms Only. If you were wishing to treat other worms that poultry can have except for Tapeworms, give the Safeguard Liquid Goat dewormer to each bird orally at a rate of 0.23ml per pound of weight for 5 days in a row, no repeat.

If it's possible, take a sampling of poop to your vet or if you have a state lab nearby, get a fecal float to see if that will give you more information.

https://jedds.com/products/endocox-powder?_pos=1&_sid=ca7fa7c40&_ss=r

https://jedds.com/products/trimethoprin-sulfa-medpet?_pos=2&_psq=sulf&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Thank you so much for your reply! There is a decent chance that they were getting water from other sources than just the Corid water, as it’s been so rainy here in Alabama, and they are all free range. But their only provided sources of drinking water was medicated with Corid, per instructional use, and I did exactly what the chart said. A question about the wormer… I did do the safeguard goat wormer once then ten days later. Not five days in a row. But I did use the dosage you listed. I have recently picked up the safeguard aquasol, and plan on keeping them all cooped until this works itself out. A few of them were cooped and only had Corid water, so those guys should be tucked in with coccidia. But I will worm them by your instruction too. But before I do, can you provide any info on using the aquasol? I haven’t used it yet. I didn’t want to overload their systems and worm right after Corid. I wanted to wait at least 2 weeks to give them a little break. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! All you guys’ input is valued!

 

[Crashlee12]

is there a chance it’s wet where they’ve been?
It’s unusual older ones, especially free rangers get it because they’ve built up immunities.

When mine got coccidiosis, it was from putting young, unexposed birds right from brooder to a growout pen we’d just had other chicks in. They got a double whammy with not just the new exposure to dirt and grass but also the poop of the previous ones. And it had just rained, which exacerbated the issues.

Corid is a safe product so I’d not worry about treating them again for it. I don’t know your setup if the sick ones could be separated but I would just treat them all to be sure. it’s not going to hurt any of them that don’t have coccidiosis if they get Corid.

Be sure after the 5-7 days of treatment are done that you follow-up with vitamins as Corid depletes their Thiamine (B1).

Hopefully, this will be the end of it!

It’s been the triple whammy around here. It’s been wet because of rain, cold, half the barn just got done being broody, and they meander off to who knows where during the day. I haven’t exposed young birds, no. Any birds I introduce are cooped alone x 4 weeks and treated with Corid, sprayed for mites and lice with elector, and wormed, all before I let them out. I watch newbies for at least a month. Plus it helps them learn their new area and where to sleep at night.

I have chicks in a brooder now who will be introduced, but not until they are much older because I don’t want them sick.

 

[Debbie292d]

It’s been the triple whammy around here. It’s been wet because of rain, cold, half the barn just got done being broody, and they meander off to who knows where during the day. I haven’t exposed young birds, no. Any birds I introduce are cooped alone x 4 weeks and treated with Corid, sprayed for mites and lice with elector, and wormed, all before I let them out. I watch newbies for at least a month. Plus it helps them learn their new area and where to sleep at night.

I have chicks in a brooder now who will be introduced, but not until they are much older because I don’t want them sick.

One trick is to get a shallow box to put in their brooder. Then go outside and get a shovel of dirt from where they'll be going to live and put it in there.

They'll have a blast scratching it around and dust bathing in it. Plus, they're getting exposed to a low level amount of the coccidiosis in the dirt where they are going to be living. It'll help them build up immunities.

 

[Crashlee12]

One trick is to get a shallow box to put in their brooder. Then go outside and get a shovel of dirt from where they'll be going to live and put it in there.

They'll have a blast scratching it around and dust bathing in it. Plus, they're getting exposed to a low level amount of the coccidiosis in the dirt where they are going to be living. It'll help them build up immunities.

I am SO glad you suggested this! Thank you! I will do it tomorrow with some dry sand from one of my coops! They are eating medicated feed, so hopefully that will help too

 

[Debbie292d]

I am SO glad you suggested this! Thank you! I will do it tomorrow with some dry sand from one of my coops! They are eating medicated feed, so hopefully that will help too

I've done medicated feed for the last two weeks they were going to be in the house. The two times chicks got cocciodosis was when I didn't do either of the things I suggested.

I have had two dozen or so I've kept from the hatches this year that were put out there, and most I remembered the medicated trick as that's the simplest. I put them back on all-flock crumbles once they go outside.

When I "forgot," they got sick.