Cornbread rat cure

[McChooky]

Moonshiner, we have been going about this all wrong. The idea of mixing cornbread mix with rats might have some merit.

D***! I don't know what's worse,processing them or eating them!

 

[McChooky]

I didn't even make it that far. That's nasty stuff

I concur!

 

[Al Gerhart]

When I moved in this place 10 yrs ago I inherited some rats so I fed them dry instant mashed potatoes (the cheapest I could find)Keeping a bowl of fresh clean water beside the bowl of potato flakes will encourage them to drink more water and cause the flakes to swell.I had a pest control employee give me this tip when we got rats at a guardhouse in Rural Hall NC.I never saw the first dead rat but they all disappeared

Consider the logic here. Dry potato flakes ingested, then water is drunk, supposedly the flakes swell up.

Volume of water + volume of water will be the same after the water absorbs. Potato flakes do swell 8 to 10% but the total volume does not increase, the water is merely absorbed. This is not a phase change like ice freezing.

Once inside the stomach, explain why a rodent's stomach could not digest carbohydrates?

The paper on the Mythology of Vertebrate Pest Control by the University of Nebraska that I posted several times already disputes potato flakes as does common sense.

Now, if that wasn't enough, how about a study where rats were fed a mixture of potato flakes and rather than die in agony the study determined the potato flakes were good for the colon system. https://www.jstor.org/stable/48508403

And another where potato flakes improved the colon system due to the antioxidant qualities of potato starch. https://www.cambridge.org/core/serv...f344-rats-fed-a-cholesterol-rich-diet-div.pdf

People, this information can be found using a one minute Google search. How about doing a minute of research before blindly posting bad advice? We get that you mean well but we just saw a post from two long time respected members stating they only got results once they followed the tried and true methods.

 

[The Moonshiner]

How about a bowl of Coca-Cola next to a pile of Mentos?

 

[Al Gerhart]

Rat rockets.... might not kill them but they would land in the next county.



I suppose if they loaded up on the mentos first before drinking the soda pop some effect would have to be there. What the studies say though is that rodents treat new food with caution, nibbling on it for a few days before eating a lot of it. And that if any discomfort happens they stop testing the strange food item.

 

[McChooky]

Consider the logic here. Dry potato flakes ingested, then water is drunk, supposedly the flakes swell up.

Volume of water + volume of water will be the same after the water absorbs. Potato flakes do swell 8 to 10% but the total volume does not increase, the water is merely absorbed. This is not a phase change like ice freezing.

Once inside the stomach, explain why a rodent's stomach could not digest carbohydrates?

The paper on the Mythology of Vertebrate Pest Control by the University of Nebraska that I posted several times already disputes potato flakes as does common sense.

Now, if that wasn't enough, how about a study where rats were fed a mixture of potato flakes and rather than die in agony the study determined the potato flakes were good for the colon system. https://www.jstor.org/stable/48508403

And another where potato flakes improved the colon system due to the antioxidant qualities of potato starch. https://www.cambridge.org/core/serv...f344-rats-fed-a-cholesterol-rich-diet-div.pdf

People, this information can be found using a one minute Google search. How about doing a minute of research before blindly posting bad advice? We get that you mean well but we just saw a post from two long time respected members stating they only got results once they followed the tried and true methods.

"How about doing a minute of research before blindly posting bad advice?"

This method was given to me by a professional rat exterminator at a Hanesbrands site where I worked as site Supervisor over Security for over 7 years. It doesn't take rocket science sir.You remove all other food sources and feed them them potato flakes they'll die off.

 

[Al Gerhart]

Please help me understand the thinking here. I truly mean no disrespect, just searching for knowledge.

I provided two links to scientific studies where rats were fed potato flakes and only potato flakes, three or four different kinds of potato flakes, for extended periods after which they were carefully studied by medical scientists and found to not only have suffered no ill effects, but the diet of potato flakes was found to be good for their digestive system. Here are the studies again:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/48508403

www.cambridge.org/core/serv...f344-rats-fed-a-cholesterol-rich-diet-div.pdf

The last study was from Cambridge. Isn't that a well respected university?

The first study, Japanese, but it was peer reviewed so one would be correct in assuming the study was well done or the paper wouldn't have been allowed to be published in a respected medical research venue.

Now silly old me, just a cabinetmaker and not wise in the way of such things, can you explain how they came up with a different result than your well respected, expert roach and rat exterminator came up with? I am certain an experienced site supervisor in charge of security for over seven years can explain this so even I can understand.

 

[McChooky]

https://homeinspectioninsider.com/can-instant-mashed-potatoes-kill-rats/

 

[Al Gerhart]

Okay, you found a house inspector click baiting.... but at least was honest enough to say this in its Con section of the article:

"Potato flakes’ efficacy in using rodent extermination does not have sufficient research to be called a proven method."

They entertained people, got some views for their site and any ads. Then they admitted that the potato flakes do nothing......

Yet there is sufficient research, the two scientific studies I provided above, both peer reviewed, both published in scientific journals.

In both studies they fed rodents for extended periods of time on NOTHING but potato flakes. The rodents DID NOT DIE. They did well, increased their health in some metrics.

Folks, we are all here to help the newbies and even learn new things ourselves. But there is a responsibility to provide honest and accurate advice. Once something has been proven to just waste money, provide more time for the rat colony to explode, and in this case, even provide more food for the rat colony, isn't it time to consider not spreading that false information? Prior to this discussion, one might not have known, one might just be trying to help.... after the discussion, what does it say if one continues to spread the information knowing it is not true?

 

[McChooky]

Okay, you found a house inspector click baiting.... but at least was honest enough to say this in its Con section of the article:

"Potato flakes’ efficacy in using rodent extermination does not have sufficient research to be called a proven method."

They entertained people, got some views for their site and any ads. Then they admitted that the potato flakes do nothing......

Yet there is sufficient research, the two scientific studies I provided above, both peer reviewed, both published in scientific journals.

In both studies they fed rodents for extended periods of time on NOTHING but potato flakes. The rodents DID NOT DIE. They did well, increased their health in some metrics.

Folks, we are all here to help the newbies and even learn new things ourselves. But there is a responsibility to provide honest and accurate advice. Once something has been proven to just waste money, provide more time for the rat colony to explode, and in this case, even provide more food for the rat colony, isn't it time to consider not spreading that false information? Prior to this discussion, one might not have known, one might just be trying to help.... after the discussion, what does it say if one continues to spread the information knowing it is not true?

If the rats has access to chicken feed they aren't going to eat enough potato flakes to hurt them.You have to have a predator proof coop and run and remove all food sources for this method to work so its not for every one.