Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[h2oratt]

Cal

The not being sure sucks. I was there too when I had my 2 "negative" tests but was sick...

The studies I read (while stuck sick in bed) said most people stop being contagious by the 9th or 10th day of symptoms. So if you can pinpoint the day you started your "cold," you could count 9 or 10 days then assume you're clear in case that was your covid experience. My husband basically sniffled for one day when he caught it. Lucky dog.

Not sure what to do if your work wants you to come in sick...

Call in sick

 

[LadiesAndJane]

It hasn’t even been tested on kids.

Actually it has. I am not concerned.

 

[h2oratt]

My SIL had a haircut week or so ago, the person that gave her a haircut tested positive called her and told her (friend of hers that owns the salon)
SIL didn't go to work that day cause figured she would be on quarantine.
CDC got ahold of her and said no quarantine. Wasn't exposed long enough they said. Not sure don't remember what she said on time limit maybe it's (just making this up) maybe it's 45mins and the haircut only took 38mins so she's good to go no quarantine. IMHO the CDC and Fauci has been pretty wishy washy, can't make up their minds, changing standards and facts all the time.

I agree on the wish washy. It’s like every month something new comes out. I realize no one is certain about anything but it sure makes you wonder. Last April I wore a mask into an ENT specialist. He told me there was no need for me to wear a mask. Next thing I know we have mandatory masks in calif.

 

[KarynVA]

Hey here’s some science for anyone who is willing to hear it.

As anyone who does a google search on Dr. Ryan Cole will see, he is a controversial figure in medical circles, to say the least.

Here is but a sampling of the fact checks of his statements

In order to fact check the claims he made to state legislators, The 208 spoke with Dr. James Souza, the Chief Medical Officer at St. Luke's Health Systems.

"Cole also told lawmakers that ivermectin, a medication used in horses to treat parasites, killed the coronavirus in 99.9% of petri dish studies. Souza said while this statement is true, it would have to be given to humans in a dose 100 times the size used in studies, which would be unsafe for humans."

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

As anyone who does a google search on Dr. Ryan Cole will see, he is a controversial figure in medical circles, to say the least.

Here is but a sampling of the fact checks of his statements

In order to fact check the claims he made to state legislators, The 208 spoke with Dr. James Souza, the Chief Medical Officer at St. Luke's Health Systems.

"Cole also told lawmakers that ivermectin, a medication used in horses to treat parasites, killed the coronavirus in 99.9% of petri dish studies. Souza said while this statement is true, it would have to be given to humans in a dose 100 times the size used in studies, which would be unsafe for humans."

The quote you use at the bottom is completely false. Why would you post that? It’s that same damn in vitro study reference. The amount needed to treat and prevent covid is the same dosage as for most parasitic infestations, which is an incredibly proven safe dose.

 

[KarynVA]

The quote you use at the bottom is completely false. Why would you post that? It’s that same damn in vitro study reference. The amount needed to treat and prevent covid is the same dosage as for most parasitic infestations, which is an incredibly proven safe dose.

Is it, though?

Dr. Souza is far from the only one saying that.

From the NIH, two months ago:
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.13 However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.14,15 (footnotes)

From the FDA
There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. That is wrong.

Even the levels of ivermectin for approved uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death.

Doesn't sound "incredibly safe" to me.

 

[Hayden Goseek]

Is it, though?

Dr. Souza is far from the only one saying that.

From the NIH, two months ago:
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.13 However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.14,15 (footnotes)

From the FDA
There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. That is wrong.

Even the levels of ivermectin for approved uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death.

Doesn't sound "incredibly safe" to me.

Just a reminder, you can purposefully overdose on any substance, even water. (I'll save the details.)

 

[Shadrach]

Got to be worth posting this again at this point.
I think the time to worry about vaccine side effects are when they are statistically significant and the risks from possible side effects outweigh the benefits. In all the reputable stuff I've read, no one has suggested that the risk of dying from any of the vaccines is even remotely close to the number of lives saved by being vaccinated.
For those who don't smoke, don't drink, don't have sex, don't ever eat out, never touch another human being or other creature etc etc then their low level of life risks may provide sufficient argument for not wishing to have anything injected into their body.
For the rest of us, who take life threatening risks daily and think nothing of it the vaccine would seem to be a good bet.
As one might expect, there are those who say the virus will never get them. That's an awfully big word is that never.

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

Is it, though?

Dr. Souza is far from the only one saying that.

From the NIH, two months ago:
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.13 However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.14,15 (footnotes)

From the FDA
There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. That is wrong.

Even the levels of ivermectin for approved uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death.

Doesn't sound "incredibly safe" to me.

It’s a red herring! Do you even wonder why they keep pointing back to the same flawed study?

 

[KarynVA]

It’s a red herring! Do you even wonder why they keep pointing back to the same flawed study?

I think it's because they are not finding enough volunteers to do a large-scale clinical trial (pssst! Hey! Wanna take some horse medicine? No?). There have been a few, but with very small sample size, like 100. And even those studies have not been peer reviewed or accepted by science as sufficient for approval in treatment for covid.