Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Winter Creek Coop]

Wee Farmer think about that for a minute, the Tuskegee Experiment went on longer than many on this thread have been alive! 40 years! For 40 years they told blacks that they were treating them when they weren’t. They told them they had their best interest in mind. They told them to trust them. Sound familiar? And they let them suffer well after there were suitable treatments/cures available. That’s our Gov. The same damn families are still in office!

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

Can anyone tell me the complications of the vaccine after 3 years? No you can’t. No one knows what happens when your own body constantly produces pieces of viral proteins for years. There are some valid concerns that it is going to lead to wide spread autoimmune disease because of the inflammatory nature of the parts chosen to replicate. Will it cause autoimmune problems? Who knows? Let’s all get it and find out.

 

[nikkers390]

Oh, by the way, all BYC rules apply. Be nice, and let's keep politics out of our discussion.

My life has changed none at all. Husband and I still doing what we always did. 76 years old, no mask, no testing, no vaccine, healthy and not fearful.

 

[KarynVA]

I sympathize with the views expressed by Winter Coop and others who are looking for certainty in dealing with this virus that is entirely new to humans. I'd love to have certainty that covid vaccines are 100% safe, too.

Have you ever heard of polio? Since 1979, no cases of polio have originated in the U.S. and that is because of the polio vaccine, which started out as a nationwide experiment and was the first of its kind of vaccine. Many unselfish and patriotic families allowed their children to be injected because they were so eager to avoid suffering from polio.

You can read the fascinating story of that experiment here.

A nationwide trial of an experimental vaccine using school children as virtual guinea pigs would be unthinkable in the United States today.

But that's exactly what happened in 1954 when frantic American parents -- looking for anything that could beat back the horror of polio -- offered up more than 1.8 million children to serve as test subjects. They included 600,000 kids who would be injected with either a new polio vaccine or a placebo.

Equally remarkable, the Salk polio vaccine trial stands as the largest peacetime mobilization of volunteers in American history, requiring the efforts of 325,000 doctors, nurses, educators and private citizens -- with no money from federal grants or pharmaceutical companies. The results were tracked by volunteers using pencils and paper.

And it lasted just one year, with officials hopeful at the outset that they would be able to begin giving the vaccine to children within weeks of the final results.

"I can't imagine what the disease would be today that could get that many parents to sign up their children for an experimental vaccine trial," said Daniel Wilson, a history professor at Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pa., who has written three books on the history of polio in the United States and is himself a polio survivor. "I think it's a measure of how much people feared polio that mothers and fathers were willing to accept the word of researchers that the vaccine was safe."

Then, just one year after the trial started, the National Foundation announced the results: The Salk vaccine proved 80 to 90 percent effective in preventing polio. And by 1961, the rate of polio had dropped by 96 percent in the United States, thanks to the Salk vaccine.

 

[RebeccaRN]

I sympathize with the views expressed by Winter Coop and others who are looking for certainty in dealing with this virus that is entirely new to humans. I'd love to have certainty that covid vaccines are 100% safe, too.

Have you ever heard of polio? Since 1979, no cases of polio have originated in the U.S. and that is because of the polio vaccine, which started out as a nationwide experiment and was the first of its kind of vaccine. Many unselfish and patriotic families allowed their children to be injected because they were so eager to avoid suffering from polio.

You can read the fascinating story of that experiment here.

A nationwide trial of an experimental vaccine using school children as virtual guinea pigs would be unthinkable in the United States today.

But that's exactly what happened in 1954 when frantic American parents -- looking for anything that could beat back the horror of polio -- offered up more than 1.8 million children to serve as test subjects. They included 600,000 kids who would be injected with either a new polio vaccine or a placebo.

Equally remarkable, the Salk polio vaccine trial stands as the largest peacetime mobilization of volunteers in American history, requiring the efforts of 325,000 doctors, nurses, educators and private citizens -- with no money from federal grants or pharmaceutical companies. The results were tracked by volunteers using pencils and paper.

And it lasted just one year, with officials hopeful at the outset that they would be able to begin giving the vaccine to children within weeks of the final results.

"I can't imagine what the disease would be today that could get that many parents to sign up their children for an experimental vaccine trial," said Daniel Wilson, a history professor at Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pa., who has written three books on the history of polio in the United States and is himself a polio survivor. "I think it's a measure of how much people feared polio that mothers and fathers were willing to accept the word of researchers that the vaccine was safe."

Then, just one year after the trial started, the National Foundation announced the results: The Salk vaccine proved 80 to 90 percent effective in preventing polio. And by 1961, the rate of polio had dropped by 96 percent in the United States, thanks to the Salk vaccine.

Those are actual vaccines not the gene therapy they are peddling as covid "vaccines" and those people chose that they weren't forced or shamed into it

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

I sympathize with the views expressed by Winter Coop and others who are looking for certainty in dealing with this virus that is entirely new to humans. I'd love to have certainty that covid vaccines are 100% safe, too.

Have you ever heard of polio? Since 1979, no cases of polio have originated in the U.S. and that is because of the polio vaccine, which started out as a nationwide experiment and was the first of its kind of vaccine. Many unselfish and patriotic families allowed their children to be injected because they were so eager to avoid suffering from polio.

You can read the fascinating story of that experiment here.

A nationwide trial of an experimental vaccine using school children as virtual guinea pigs would be unthinkable in the United States today.

But that's exactly what happened in 1954 when frantic American parents -- looking for anything that could beat back the horror of polio -- offered up more than 1.8 million children to serve as test subjects. They included 600,000 kids who would be injected with either a new polio vaccine or a placebo.

Equally remarkable, the Salk polio vaccine trial stands as the largest peacetime mobilization of volunteers in American history, requiring the efforts of 325,000 doctors, nurses, educators and private citizens -- with no money from federal grants or pharmaceutical companies. The results were tracked by volunteers using pencils and paper.

And it lasted just one year, with officials hopeful at the outset that they would be able to begin giving the vaccine to children within weeks of the final results.

"I can't imagine what the disease would be today that could get that many parents to sign up their children for an experimental vaccine trial," said Daniel Wilson, a history professor at Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pa., who has written three books on the history of polio in the United States and is himself a polio survivor. "I think it's a measure of how much people feared polio that mothers and fathers were willing to accept the word of researchers that the vaccine was safe."

Then, just one year after the trial started, the National Foundation announced the results: The Salk vaccine proved 80 to 90 percent effective in preventing polio. And by 1961, the rate of polio had dropped by 96 percent in the United States, thanks to the Salk vaccine.

Yes, they rolled the dice and it worked. What if it hadn’t worked so well? It would be added to my list of atrocities.

Here is a more modern example your story in India, where polio was eradicated, but in exchange they had almost 500,000 cases of paralysis from the oral vaccine!

Why rush and vaccinate low risk individuals in the short term when there are very effective treatments available? ‘Cause shots in arms...”

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

Those are actual vaccines not the gene therapy they are peddling as covid "vaccines" and those people chose that they weren't forced or shamed into it

Exactly!

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfi...cine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html

A perpetual revenue source...

 

[KarynVA]

Got my second dose of Pfizer yesterday and I expected to feel tired and a bit achey today; but actually, I feel pretty good. I am really appreciating the CDC's V-safe app that keeps track of how I'm doing post-vaccine. If I report any serious side effects, they say they will call to check on me.

I'd like to highly encourage those who choose to get covid vaccinations to use V-safe; it's a great way to help advance the science of vaccines going forward so they can be even safer for everyone.

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

If the makers don’t know how long the protection lasts, how can they possibly know the long term negative effects?