Cotton Patch Association?

[hossfeathers]

Any thoughts on what the name of this new "group" could be?

There's always the obvious: Cotton Patch Goose Association

Or: Association of Cotton Patch Goose (Geese?) Breeders

Breeder's Association of Cotton Patch Geese

Cotton Patch Goose Coalition (CPGC) (hmmm...Might get confused with the CPG Club. Or the CPG Congress. And the CPG Coalition. Not to mention that splinter group, the Confederacy of Cotton Patch Geese.)

Cotton Patch Goose Mob

Cotton Patch Goose Tribe

Cotton Patch Goose Gaggle

Union of Cotton Patch Geese....naah.

Cotton Patch Goose League?

...actually, maybe we better stick with your idea. Although the sci-fi geek in me does fancy 'Cotton Patch Geese Alliance'.​

 

[goosedragon]

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No cotton PATCH geese they are true geese, a landrace breed without a single location of origin which will make an association to cover them all just about impossible. I predict some debate as to which charastics are "true" CPG and which are not. They are supposed to be leftovers from the period when 'weeder' geese were used in cotton patches.

 

[Miss Lydia]

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Or: Association of Cotton Patch Goose (Geese?) Breeders

Breeder's Association of Cotton Patch Geese

Cotton Patch Goose Coalition (CPGC) (hmmm...Might get confused with the CPG Club. Or the CPG Congress. And the CPG Coalition. Not to mention that splinter group, the Confederacy of Cotton Patch Geese.)

Cotton Patch Goose Mob

Cotton Patch Goose Tribe

Cotton Patch Goose Gaggle

Union of Cotton Patch Geese....naah.

Cotton Patch Goose League?

...actually, maybe we better stick with your idea. Although the sci-fi geek in me does fancy 'Cotton Patch Geese Alliance'.

I like the Cotton Patch Goose League, maybe you can teach them to play soccer.

 

[hossfeathers]

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But of course! What is the point of having a breeder's association if you can't have disagreements between breeders!

There is some precedence, as I understand it, to lumping together different strains of 'old-timey' livestock together, as with the Pineywoods cattle or the Gulf Coast Native sheep, in order to better promote the breed & get recognition. It does make for more work keeping the strains intact, which is what I'd rather start NOW rather than in 15 years. Me, if they've got southern weeder geese that are autosexing and got pink feet, I'd lean towards including them.

 

[jenjscott]

I also got two pair of Cotton Patch Geese at the Crossroads show. I got them from Kent.

 

[goosedragon]

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But of course! What is the point of having a breeder's association if you can't have disagreements between breeders!

There is some precedence, as I understand it, to lumping together different strains of 'old-timey' livestock together, as with the Pineywoods cattle or the Gulf Coast Native sheep, in order to better promote the breed & get recognition. It does make for more work keeping the strains intact, which is what I'd rather start NOW rather than in 15 years. Me, if they've got southern weeder geese that are autosexing and got pink feet, I'd lean towards including them.

Yep I call that the big lie method If you say it loud enough and often enough people start to beleive you and you become the expert on the 'breed'.

 

[hossfeathers]

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Well, whatever works for you...did you have some suggestions for a standard? I expect that we're still open to opinions.

 

[hossfeathers]

And among the other things that need doing with the standard...the USDA NPIP instruction book does not include CPG as a listed variety. Clearly needs to be rectified. Clearly.

 

[jenjscott]

One way to go about standardization would be to check out the APA rules on getting a new breed entered into the standard. Make sure your Association is aimed in the right direction for that if that is what you want. defining the breed characteristics and type can be really important. Get polls of real weights of the geese so that the standard can be set realistically. It takes a lot of time research and some real dedication. Getting everyone involved on the same track may be the biggest problem.

At this point I myself have not done enough research on different lines and am not familiar with the difference between them. Are there big differences between geese being called cotton patch? What are they? I am aquainted with the Tom Walker line, I guess you'd call it, and would be interested in hearing about the others.

 

[hossfeathers]

One way to go about standardization would be to check out the APA rules on getting a new breed entered into the standard.

Yeap, the people who are working on that are deep into the APA rules. (Or so they've said...have I mentioned that we don't even have a name yet? We are a very new...whatever we are.)

Get polls of real weights of the geese so that the standard can be set realistically.

Oooo. I had not thought of that, and no one's mentioned it to me (yet.)

At this point I myself have not done enough research on different lines and am not familiar with the difference between them. Are there big differences between geese being called cotton patch? What are they? I am aquainted with the Tom Walker line, I guess you'd call it, and would be interested in hearing about the others.

All I know is that there has been some discussion here on BYC (I am too lazy to look up the threads - wait, no, I'm too busy getting on the road to grandmother's house, there, that's my story) concerning 'Tobbacco Field Geese' which are much the same thing, but collected by someone other than Tom Walker. If you search for tobacco geese, you may find the thread.

I myself would lean toward a 'descriptive' standard (which says what the geese do look like) rather than a 'prescriptive' one - which is what APA needs for a show standard ideal. But I don't show. So I'm not the best final word on this. (And I'd much rather someone else figure this out, not exactly my field.)​