Coturnix breeding question—silvers

[kurby22]

I just had a question about breeding. I am terrible at figuring out all these quail genetics and I don’t think I’m quite ready to understand the quail calculator either :-/

I have one silver quail—not sure yet if it’s a male or female. I am interested in breeding colors in the black/grays...what kind of colors would I get mating the silver to one of these two color patterns (I believe they have some black and gray coloring already? Would I get more silvers if the silver breeds with one of these two colorings? Is it even possible to tell at this point? I ask because I will not be able to keep all my males...but I’m not sure which males would be best to cull out based on what I’m hoping to get colors wise?
Thanks!

 

[NY Coturnix]

Here's a good video explaining the SCC color varieties from myshire.

 

[FloorCandy]

Silver is incompletely dominant and will kind of silverize other colors. The biggest difference in pairing it to a wild pattern vs range pattern is that the wild will have stripes. If you want more silvers, think about if you want the more stripey wild pattern or a more solid range pattern. Once you breed it, you will probably find that most are pretty dark and not exactly what you are looking for. You can cross back to the silver parent and get more silvers, but you will probably find you get lower hatch rates because 25 % of them could be affected by double silver genes. Usually the egg just won’t be fertile and grow, sometimes they quit, and occasionally you’ll get a double silver which often have issues and don’t survive.

to achieve a nice group of gray and blacks, the fee gene is your ticket. A group of pearl fees crossed to silvers will probably help you achieve a nice blend. Falb fee and grau fee have more blends of grays and some cream, pearl fee are usually black and white.

 

[kurby22]

Silver is incompletely dominant and will kind of silverize other colors. The biggest difference in pairing it to a wild pattern vs range pattern is that the wild will have stripes. If you want more silvers, think about if you want the more stripey wild pattern or a more solid range pattern. Once you breed it, you will probably find that most are pretty dark and not exactly what you are looking for. You can cross back to the silver parent and get more silvers, but you will probably find you get lower hatch rates because 25 % of them could be affected by double silver genes. Usually the egg just won’t be fertile and grow, sometimes they quit, and occasionally you’ll get a double silver which often have issues and don’t survive.

to achieve a nice group of gray and blacks, the fee gene is your ticket. A group of pearl fees crossed to silvers will probably help you achieve a nice blend. Falb fee and grau fee have more blends of grays and some cream, pearl fee are usually black and white.

Okay great! Thank you! I’ll have to look into getting myself some pearl fees!

 

[kurby22]

Here's a good video explaining the SCC color varieties from myshire.

Thank you! I will need to subscribe to the channel, great info!

 

[yakitori]

Silver is incompletely dominant and will kind of silverize other colors. The biggest difference in pairing it to a wild pattern vs range pattern is that the wild will have stripes. If you want more silvers, think about if you want the more stripey wild pattern or a more solid range pattern. Once you breed it, you will probably find that most are pretty dark and not exactly what you are looking for. You can cross back to the silver parent and get more silvers, but you will probably find you get lower hatch rates because 25 % of them could be affected by double silver genes. Usually the egg just won’t be fertile and grow, sometimes they quit, and occasionally you’ll get a double silver which often have issues and don’t survive.

to achieve a nice group of gray and blacks, the fee gene is your ticket. A group of pearl fees crossed to silvers will probably help you achieve a nice blend. Falb fee and grau fee have more blends of grays and some cream, pearl fee are usually black and white.

welp

I am about to hatch eggs from a silver tuxedo male, with 2 of his hens being some kind of silver as well.

RIP hatch rates

 

[MegTheHenEggQueen]

How has your breeding journey been? I am breeding for colors as well mainly silvers and blacks! If you are still into all this let’s talk! Or just communicate in this thread!

 

[CovidtimeQuail]

welp

I am about to hatch eggs from a silver tuxedo male, with 2 of his hens being some kind of silver as well.

RIP hatch rates

Cool. I don't think I've ever seen silver tux

 

[Nabiki]

Cool. I don't think I've ever seen silver tux

Silver tuxes are pretty common from the SSC Collection. I have a few.