Coturnix color genetics experts - Pearl genetics?

[gmstan]

Does anyone know what kind of variations I might expect from a pearl male crossed with a jumbo brown female? My birds are from southwest gamebirds, one of JMF's partner farms, if that matters. Thank you for any guidance!

 

[Fenrisulfr]

True ... Fee Factor is a seperate gene to the normal color pattern. So Fees are Multi Factor.
The Fee-Factor eleminates red and most brown of the underlying pattern.

In fact a Pearl Fee is the Fee of an Italian.
As an Italian is heterozygotous Gold/Manchurian and Pharaoh you will not get 100% Pearls by breeding Pearl with Pearl.

Depending in the Fee-factor is homozygotious, you will get 50% Pearl Fees, 25% Falb Fees (Fees of Pharaoh) and 25% very light Pearls (Fees of Golden/Manchurian)

Is the Fee-factor heterozygotous, you get 25% Pearls, 12.5% Falbs, 12.5% Golden Fees, 25% Italians, 12.5% Pharaohs and 12.5% Manchurians....

.... statisticly of course.

 

[Fenrisulfr]

Does anyone know what kind of variations I might expect from a pearl male crossed with a jumbo brown female? My birds are from southwest gamebirds, one of JMF's partner farms, if that matters. Thank you for any guidance!

Jumbo Brown is Tibetan or Pharaoh (wild pattern)?

I guess Pharaoh and not Brown Ranged (Tibetan).

Again depending if the Fee factor is homozygotous or heterozygotous.

Hom = 50% Pearl and 50% Falbs
Het = 25% Pearl, 25% Falb, 25% Pharaoh and 25% Italian.

 

[Fenrisulfr]

P.S.: Fee-Factor is autosomal dominant ... Gold/Fawn factor is autosomal intermediate (incomplete dominat) and Wildpattern/Pharaoh is autosomal rezessive ... just to add

 

[FloorCandy]

Jumbo Brown is Tibetan or Pharaoh (wild pattern)?

I guess Pharaoh and not Brown Ranged (Tibetan).

Again depending if the Fee factor is homozygotous or heterozygotous.

Hom = 50% Pearl and 50% Falbs
Het = 25% Pearl, 25% Falb, 25% Pharaoh and 25% Italian.

As far as I’ve seen, I believe jumbo brown is a jumbo pharaoh, and the terms are used interchangeably, maybe jumbo brown is what a popular breeder might name his line? I see many people online say jumbo brown and show photos of pharaoh, if that helps.

 

[Fenrisulfr]

Yes it helps... also @gmstan already cleared that in another thread, I red after this post here

But thx a lot... I am still learning the US quail naming

 

[gmstan]

Yes thank you for the answer here as well, @Fenrisulfr. I had some overlap between the questions in my two posts (and a little bit of eagerness to find an answer as I need to thin out my male population asap!).

Super helpful, I think I'm going to keep the pearl male to create some color variation in our next hatch...

 

[Fenrisulfr]

[...]...
B. some colors can mask it sometimes but not others. I have a silver male hiding pearl genes that keeps throwing pearl and snowie (silver + pearl) babies. Beats me why he doesn't actually express the pattern himself!
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The Fee factor should be dominant, as far as I know.
Do you have a pic of the silver male and a Pearl and Snowy offspring ... @CoturnixComplex ?
It makes me curious

 

[cathalmire]

OK, Coturnix color genetics experts, what genotype produces a white bird with black speckles, what I normally see called Pearl or Pearl-Fee? And don't be worried about getting technical. I love genetics, though my color genetics knowledge is mostly equine, LOL!

I know it's an old Question. But if you breed Italian female with a Male fable fee

 

[Susan Skylark]

With that cross you’d get pharoah, Italian, falb fee, and pearl (Italian fee), approximately 25 percent each, assuming the falb fee is heterozygous fee, would be fifty fifty pearl and falb fee if homozygous.