could you explain for my friend why these aren't ameracaunas/auracanas

[Sparklee]

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What I absolutely love about the above table is that a Tomaru Long Crower, a Kraienkoppe, a Manx Rumpie, and a Norwegian Jaerhorn all qualify as Americanas - Easter Eggers.

 

[Nicole01]

Eh, I call my EE an Americauna. That is how she was sold to me from the guy who bought her from the hatchery. I'm not a breeding program, so it really doesn't matter which breed I call her. She is my pet and I love her no matter what.

Let it go and continue living life to it's fullest. No sense on getting upset over this. I'm sure deep down he does know they are Easter eggers. He's has very nice looking birds.

 

[haTHOR]

no worries, i am not upset and neither is he.

the birds don't belong to either he or me...but we both have offspring and in conversations on ffacebook we are trying to converse...i don't want anyone who sees me talking about them thinking i have ameracaunas is what it comes down to. i sell birds and don't want to ever misrepresent. i don't care what he calls them really but in a public conversation i feel like i have to clarify...

i think he and i are clear now.

 

[Higins00]

Simple way of saying it.
True Ameraucana's are certain colors that can only be bred to specific colors like blue, black, and splash. If you breed a black and a wheaton you mix "the races" and still get a chicken that lays a blue/green egg but is considered a EE. It's like a white person having a child with a chinese person. They are not full white or chinese, still a person and nothing wrong with them. A EE is just a mix of true ameraucana colors. They are fantastic birds.

 

[ChickenWisperer]

Those birds are EasterEggers. See this video I made -

Why are those birds Easter Eggers and NOT Ameraucanas?

Simply because they do not meet the requirements to fit the APA standard of perfection for Ameraucanas. They do not have an accepted color; I can't comment on combs or shank color, because they are too small within the image to tell.

 

[drdoolittle]

I love EEs, because I really love seeing different color combinations in my birds when I watch them moving around. I also love trying to guess what the chicks will look like when full-grown----not to mention the different hues of blue and green eggs I get from them!

Each to his own.

 

[schellie69]

I have a rule when it comes to Ameraucana's if you have to ask then they are Easter eggers much easier that way. I don't want anyone that I might sell my birds to get the wrong name. I feel its better to be truthful with what I have. Even if I have a wheaten/black Ameraucana its an Easter egger. Just to many people do get upset and I can understand that breeders do spend so much time. and money on breeding that they have a right to have people know the difference. Even if you say they are non-standard Ameraucana's people sale the Easter Eggers as Ameraucana's because that is what they are called at hatcheries they just don't know the difference. IMO.

 

[BlossomSilkies]

I would think if your friend were that interested in this, he would do the research and find the answer. There is lots of information out there on the subject. Like someone said, many breeders spend lots of time and money getting the standard for this breed (or any other for that matter)

I have 3 "Ameraucanas" from the feedstore where they got them from Ideal. I know these are Easter Eggers from asking here and doing my own research. I get it. I have 1 Lavender (not a standard color) from a breeder who has had fine quality breeder pairs shipped in from all over the country. Her's are true Ameraucanas in my opinion, even though the Lavender isn't a recognized color. I have heard they are trying to get it on the list. (edited to say) This breeder has several of the standard colors as well, not just Lavenders.

Makes no difference to me, my chickens aren't for show, they are for my entertainment and to make my backyard interesting.

There is my 2 cents, not an expert at any of this, JMHO. Have him google it so he can come to his own conclusion on the subject.

Peace.

 

[dretd]

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The way I look at it is to compare it to dog breeding, only there is no AKC or registration process. So if there is a purebred lab that has papers but doesn't meet breed requirements, he would be neutered and sold as pet quality. If there is a dog that looks like a lab with no papers we may call him a labx. For chickens, they only go by breed conformity. If you try to take a non-standard Am to a show it would be disqualified because it doesn't meet the standards of the breed regardless of whether the parents are purebred or not.

I would tell him that it is customary in the chicken world use the name Easter Egger for non-standard Ameraucanas and it is respectful of the breeders to follow that custom.

 

[ChickenWisperer]

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I typically tell people not to do this. Because it's NOT common that Easter Eggers are actually pure, non-standard Ameraucanas - they are usually mutts or of Quechua lineage.