Coyote attack

[c4ck4]

She brought me some Penicillin G Procaine and the bottle says to give 1 mL per 10lb body weight. That's 1/10th of the 1 cc dose recommended above. Which is more accurate?

 

[Michael Apple]

She brought me some Penicillin G Procaine and the bottle says to give 1 mL per 10lb body weight. That's 1/10th of the 1 cc dose recommended above. Which is more accurate?

Normally it is 1/2 cc for a hen over 5 lbs. That's an average weight for a standard breed. I figured your Turkey was much larger, thus the 1 cc recommendation.

 

[c4ck4]

Sorry I missed your last two posts before posting.

I'm not sure how to get him to eat anything, I did dropper a few droppers of water into his mouth but have no way of getting any nutrients in him (I don't have anything besides his grain feed).

He's only 5mo old and so he's around 10-12lb. Er wait. I made a typo, I meant to say the bottle says 1 mL per 100lb body weight. It says its a concentration of 300,000 units per mL.

Mostly I was just concerned about way overdosing him. Since he's not eating at all I guess I'll wait to try and give him an injection. He's laying down now and I'm afraid he won't make it through the night, he's kinda face first into the straw.

The store sent her back with some "blu-kote" germicidal/fungicidal spray as well. I guess I could give that a try topically.

At this point mostly I'm worried about his strength and spirit and that he won't start eating or drinking again at all.

 

[Michael Apple]

Sorry I missed your last two posts before posting.

I'm not sure how to get him to eat anything, I did dropper a few droppers of water into his mouth but have no way of getting any nutrients in him (I don't have anything besides his grain feed).

He's only 5mo old and so he's around 10-12lb. Er wait. I made a typo, I meant to say the bottle says 1 mL per 100lb body weight. It says its a concentration of 300,000 units per mL.

Mostly I was just concerned about way overdosing him. Since he's not eating at all I guess I'll wait to try and give him an injection. He's laying down now and I'm afraid he won't make it through the night, he's kinda face first into the straw.

The store sent her back with some "blu-kote" germicidal/fungicidal spray as well. I guess I could give that a try topically.

At this point mostly I'm worried about his strength and spirit and that he won't start eating or drinking again at all.

Don't use Blu-kote. it will only dry out the wound. Chickens require many times the dose of certain antibiotics, so 1/2 cc penicillin wouldn't be too much for 10-12 lb turkey. It is possible his neck is injured. Keep him comfortable and warm. Gently try giving him fluids/watered down food, liquified, hard boiled egg yolk in a syringe if that's all you have. Give breaks in between. Unfortunately I have to hit the hay because I get up early for work. Best of luck to you & that turkey, and I'll try to check this thread in the morning.

 

[c4ck4]

Quote: Good to know, I trust your advice thanks.

Quote: I'm afraid this or something else must be wrong since the wound isn't really that big and appears to be mending already.

Quote: He's in a cozy box in my garage, the day was warm here in Portland and the nights have been mild so the garage should stay a cozy temp. I gave him a bit more water so all I can do is hope he makes it through the night and will take food tomorrow.

Thanks again for your help and I'll update you tomorrow afternoon probably when I get off work. Fingers crossed.

 

[c4ck4]

He made it through the night but didn't look good this morning. The girlfriend has been feeding him a liquid nutrient diet while I'm at work by syringe. He's started even gobbling at the syringe tip showing interest in it. I'm still concerned about his stiff neck and about that inhibiting self feeding.

One eye is partially closed, definitely some kind of head injury. More later.

 

[jshoes]

So I'm the gf of the turkey's owner. I went to feed stores around PDX and no one had nutri-drench. Made my own formula and he's sucking it down like crazy! Ingredients: 1 packet Sav-A-Chick electrolyte mix 1 packet Sav-A-Chick probiotic mix 6 tbs Kaytee Pet Birds Exact hand feeding formula for companion bird babies 1/2 cup ground up Calf-Manna Directions: Mixed all ingredients in 1 gallon jug with water Feed with syringe. As of 1:30pm he's had 60 full syringes. I put a heat lamp on and he perked up within 10 minutes. He's gorging himself on the liquid mix. Here is a video just as he began getting ravenous. Still hanging his neck while resting but perks up when I walk by and eyes my hand like it's the most delish ambrosia. I took out solid food and ground up rough calf manna and some of the turkey feed. Mixture is 1/2 turkey feed and 1/2 calf manna. Now going to mix with yogurt to get some more solid yet soft food. He's tried to break off the tip of the syringe so I had to cut it down so he could get more faster. I've got a scratch on my hand and a cut on my thumb from his eagerness. He's pooped 2x and it smells awful but it's soft after the 1st one which was runny. He has been quite alert! It's heartening. Question, he's gotten some of the mix in his nostril. How to I make sure to get this dry? Also does this usually lead to sinus infection? If so what antibiotic other than penicillin would be best to start proactively? -Jshoes

 

[Michael Apple]

You are doing a good job. Mild heat helps a bird under stress from injury. Don't worry about the nostril. If the bird drinks on his own from the waterer, you can always use a dispersible powder in the water like Duramycin/Terramycin to prevent infection (coyotes have filthy mouths). Coyotes, coons, and foxes like to go for the neck, which turkeys have plenty of. That is likely why he hangs his head because his neck is sore. Keep the nutrients going for him but be conservative with the Calf Manna. Too much can cause liver trouble. Some Turkey finisher ration should be fine for that 10 week old bird. Keeping him hydrated with the vitamins-electrolytes is important too. If you can support his head while syringe feeding, it will relieve stress on the neck. You'll have a turkey on your lap for a bit, but the turkey will appreciate it. I'm glad to see the good news. I'll hope for more improvement.

I know you are in the city limits, but I'd suggest cage trapping that coyote if you can and shooting him with a nice, quiet 22 short round in the head. If you are uncomfortable shooting it, you can always trap it, call Department of Fish and Game, and they'll pick it up or advise you who to contact. Once predators know a food source is there, they come back for another try. You have the right to protect your animals.

 

[jshoes]

Don't worry about the nostril. If the bird drinks on his own from the waterer, you can always use a dispersible powder in the water like Duramycin/Terramycin to prevent infection (coyotes have filthy mouths). Coyotes, coons, and foxes like to go for the neck, which turkeys have plenty of. That is likely why he hangs his head because his neck is sore. Keep the nutrients going for him but be conservative with the Calf Manna. Too much can cause liver trouble.



Keeping him hydrated with the vitamins-electrolytes is important too. If you can support his head while syringe feeding, it will relieve stress on the neck. You'll have a turkey on your lap for a bit, but the turkey will appreciate it. I'm glad to see the good news. I'll hope for more improvement.

I know you are in the city limits, but I'd suggest cage trapping that coyote if you can and shooting him with a nice, quiet 22 short round in the head. If you are uncomfortable shooting it, you can always trap it, call Department of Fish and Game, and they'll pick it up or advise you who to contact. Once predators know a food source is there, they come back for another try. You have the right to protect your animals.

So I got penicillin last night and bf is home to admin yogurt food and meds (we haven't given penicillin yet since attack). I'm going to pick up some waterers because turkey can't tip his neck to drink the mixture. Here is what I'm thinking vs metal tip. Any ideas if metal is better or not? Or any suggestions instead?

Pet Top Combo Pack Portable Water Bottle Drinking Adaptor for Pets

Petco Water Bottles for Small Animals

 

[jshoes]

Also can you combine penicillin and Duramycin/Terramycin together as a tag team/full on attack all at once so to speak? and what administration would be best (time and if I should introduce the Duramycin/Terramycin after giving the shot). Thank you so much for your help! Before today I'd only had to capture the birds when they escaped. I'm terrified of the small dinosaur decedents, rather huge birds of prey so to speak (pardon the Trek ref).