Coyotes!

[Miltonchix]

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This is a very effective method for me too.

While a .22 CAN kill a coyote, why not go for a SURE kill? I've shot many coyote with a .22 only to have to shoot them again next week. .223 or larger almost guarantees a kill. Something with VELOCITY. If you're in an area you can use a .22 legally, you can use a larger weapon.

I'd be more than willing to come shoot anyones coyotes IF you're willing to pay for expenses only.

BTW the ones that had to be shot a second time were shot at 200 to 500 yards. Dumb shot with a .22, I know, but I was YOUNG AND DUMB then. But I hit 'em

 

[nautical_bouy]

I'll put an apple on my head at 500 yards and let you shoot at me with a .22 rimfire

You didn't hit a coyote at 1500 feet with a 22 rimfire, have to walk up to it and shoot it again,

Also, rimfires do not get classified with centerfires,,, a .22 is a lot diffrent than a .223

500 yards is a feat for a match shooter with a custom rifle to hit a 4'' target

 

[theJH]

.22 rimfire @ 500 yards? I would like to see that!

 

[Miltonchix]

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A friend and I both have done this. Same friend took a deer down with a .22 at 350 yard. I wouldn't have believed it either had I not witnessed it. He was an Army sniper years ago. He fired 5 quick rounds and ALL 5 were kill shots. The deer was so far off we didn't even know it was a 4X4 buck til we retreived it.
I know, hard to believe but I saw him do it. Whats more, the Ruger 10-22 he used had a broken OFF rear sight! Luck? No, he is that good. I used to be too, but eyes are getting old.

 

[americana-chick]

that sucks. we have problems with cats and foxes! "thankfully no coyotes yet" and we have an electric fence around our pen and for me it does no good. but i have help actually, you see my chickens are free range and actually free range, they have a pen but they can go in and out of it freely. they also have a chicken coop wich i lock them all up at night. but my help is actually goats, beleive it or not. my chickens share a BIG pen with 4 goats and they get along just fine. i have had a few attacks at night but then i started locking them up "as i said befor" thankfully no chickens have been taken yet durring the day and i think the goats help out a lot with that. but i guess i am not sure..

 

[Davaroo]

Im glad to hear that others adhere to the concept of LPD - Layered Perimeter Defense.
Whether dogs or fences, traps or offensive scents, there is much to recommend this method.
But coyotes have become more numerous and adaptable to human presence than ever before. Reports increase almost daily about coyotes being seen within human circles, where they were not seen before.
Recently, children were being openly attacked in suburban California areas.
Here's a bit from Bob Plamondon I like to offer when this discussion turns up:

<< Predators are smart and observant. I rarely hear people mention this, but predators are smarter and more observant than people give them credit for. Now that I've killed two crows, at least a hundred are avoiding my farm.

I've seen the same effect with four-footed predators: when the farmers, animal control people and federal trappers are on their toes about livestock-eaters, the predators not only get the message, they pass it on to their young, and a balance is struck.

Practically all predators eat wildlife rather than livestock, and this means that both predators and livestock get to have a normal lifespan. But if you don't kill any predators, their caution fades. After a couple of generations, the mothers stop teaching farm-avoidance to their young, and then the clueless young predators kill a lot of livestock before inevitably being killed themselves. Which is a bad deal all around.

To misquote the song, "Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be livestock eaters!" >>

If all the layered defenses break down and the coyotes begin adapting to them, then a more active stance must be taken. I recommend a rifle in the 6mm class with a good scope.
A .22RF rifle, even the more powerful .22WMR (magnum) tend to be a little light, especially in the hands of the more inexperienced shooter. There are a few specialty cartridges for the .22 RF that have their adherents, but for most casual chicken keepers I wouldn't recommend them.

Coyotes are larger and tougher than you may imagine. The slightly larger, heavier 6mm/.243 is nearly as easy to shoot as the .22RF and many women prefer it. It can be reloaded over and over to any power level that suits you and more importantly, it does a better job of anchoring coyotes when shot. It is also more versatile - making it possible to harvest game all the way up to deer class animals with one rifle.

 

[nautical_bouy]

OOOOkkkkkk,,, I've shot 600 yard matches at Minerva and 1000 at Camp Perry.
A .22 long rifle averages 75 ft. lbs. of energy at 100 yds, about a 25% loss over 300'
Now your talking 1050' with no rear sight.

Facts are facts, I am a trained long range shooter, and someone that knows ballistics.

 

[FrontPorchIndiana]

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I totally agree with everything you said, but let's not forget, those suburban areas were once the predator's home. As people continue to spread out and build, build, build they need to remember where they are. Almost every time I read about an animal attack it can be attributed to urban sprawl.

 

[nautical_bouy]

Today "urban sprawl" usually means more grass and lots of trash cans so animals rarely seen before now have food and thrive...

 

[Davaroo]

Facts are facts, I am a trained long range shooter, and someone that knows ballistics.

Im a little fuzzy on what your facts are attempting to illustrate. I'm no Camp Perry marksman, but not a dope either. Can you clarify?​