Crazy Seller?

[bigtime400]

Shipped eggs are a gamble....no way around that. It's a fact that once they leave the seller's hands there are many variables that can occur during shipping and hatching that a seller has no control over.

I don't sell on ebay...only on here occasionally. When I'm selling eggs I am continually hatching from the same group of hens so I know fertility is good. I can be getting 100% hatches here at home but those I've shipped (and I do pack well) don't do nearly as well.

I've never expected or requested replacement eggs as a buyer because I'm well aware of the risks...nor do I offer them as a seller because of the variables that I have nothing to do with.

Well with this attitude I suggest you don't try. It would be like throwing your chickens (Feedback) to the wolves (buyers)

Ebay has accepted a "the buyer is always right" policy sorta like the customer is always right scenario. Meaning its the sellers responsibility untill it arrives to the buyer and the buyer is satisfied that it is as described.
No one is going to buy from a seller that would say "you would be lucky to get any chicks from my eggs after I mail them" When you buy used car parts from any kind of established buisness at selling car parts there is a window for which you can return the parts for a refund. Even though the seller has no idea if they are good or not. Its just good buisness practice.

That may work out just fine for you but I dont think it would work out to good if you were trying to make it more then a hobby. Sure its not your fault.... but its not the buyers either. Disclamers work in theory but only work in practice if there are no problems.​

 

[Katy]

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Well with this attitude I suggest you don't try. It would be like throwing your chickens (Feedback) to the wolves (buyers)

Ebay has accepted a "the buyer is always right" policy sorta like the customer is always right scenario. Meaning its the sellers responsibility untill it arrives to the buyer and the buyer is satisfied that it is as described.
No one is going to buy from a seller that would say "you would be lucky to get any chicks from my eggs after I mail them" When you buy used car parts from any kind of established buisness at selling car parts there is a window for which you can return the parts for a refund. Even though the seller has no idea if they are good or not. Its just good buisness practice.

That may work out just fine for you but I dont think it would work out to good if you were trying to make it more then a hobby. Sure its not your fault.... but its not the buyers either. Disclamers work in theory but only work in practice if there are no problems.

First off comparing car parts and hatching eggs is totally off base. They are completely different products and no real comparisons can be made.

Since you're new to chickens and hatching eggs I'd say you have little to no personal experience with hatching eggs being shipped. A person with shipped egg experience knows that you're very, very lucky if 50% hatch......anymore than that is a bonus and less than that is just the risk you take.

I've never had any problems selling my eggs on here and I've always said there are no guarentees with shipped eggs.

One reason I don't sell on ebay is because of people with your attitude.

I have refused to sell to some people new to hatching because I did not want them wasting their money...and my eggs have always sold for a good price.....when they have no experience hatching eggs. I tell them I'll gladly sell to them after they've done some trial runs with cheap, local eggs.

I have no desire to deal with people who don't understand the risks that go with shipped hatching eggs. The fact is that you are lucky if any of the eggs hatch.....it's just the way it is.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Shipped eggs are a gamble....no way around that. It's a fact that once they leave the seller's hands there are many variables that can occur during shipping and hatching that a seller has no control over.

That is very very very true. We have enough birds that I can ship out two dozen+ eggs that came from the same birds on the same day, granted they go to different parts of the country but one buyer gets a great hatch one doesn't from the same lot of eggs. That is a prime example of shipping variables. One person has a top notch incubator and knows how to use it another has a .99 cent special and doesn't know how to use it - that would be a hatching variable. Those are things that as a seller I have no control over.

We sell alot on ebay and I give the buyer feedback on how they pay, as soon as they pay. "super fast payment" means they paid right after the auction ended, "fast payment" means the next day payment. If it takes longer than that I normally don't give feedback and put them on the blocked seller list.

Alot of people give us feedback when they get their eggs some wait until hatch.

We have one person from last Sunday that hasn't paid yet! We sent them a reminder on Monday that the eggs were packed and ready to ship and heard nothing back. At 8PM tonight exactly 4 days after auction ended we will open a non payment claim. It's all up to them.

Steve​

 

[bigtime400]

First off comparing car parts and hatching eggs is totally off base. They are completely different products and no real comparisons can be made.

Sure it is a great comparison as you dont know whether or not they will work. Yes they are diffrent, ones living. and ones not.... but valid comparisons can definetly be made.

Since you're new to chickens and hatching eggs I'd say you have little to no personal experience with hatching eggs being shipped. A person with shipped egg experience knows that you're very, very lucky if 50% hatch......anymore than that is a bonus and less than that is just the risk you take.

I don't disagree with the second part of your statment but thanks for putting it in the context of I dont know what I'm talking about so my opinion doesn't matter. BTW... thats why I bought 30 eggs even though I don't want close to that many chickens.... 3 or 4 tops. If I have more Ill give them away. Its more for a learning experience for me.... and my 2 daughters.

I've never had any problems selling my eggs on here and I've always said there are no guarentees with shipped eggs.

One reason I don't sell on ebay is because of people with your attitude.

Did I mention I have almost 900 feedback with 100% positive and about to get power seller status???? Did I not say that I gave the seller glowing reviews in the end? It was her pushy attitude that turned me off?? Are you not reading???? I did give her positive with 5 stars. OR are you trying to deamonize me to justify how you chose to treat people?
Ohh... and thanks for not making it personal your highness.

I have refused to sell to some people new to hatching because I did not want them wasting their money...and my eggs have always sold for a good price.....when they have no experience hatching eggs. I tell them I'll gladly sell to them after they've done some trial runs with cheap, local eggs.

I have no desire to deal with people who don't understand the risks that go with shipped hatching eggs. The fact is that you are lucky if any of the eggs hatch.....it's just the way it is.

A regular saint saving the common man money. If it was really about the money I would have just got some chicks........You know at some point... you were new to hatching eggs. Whether or not you got them locally (which I tried but coudnt find what I wanted) or bought them over the mail. (again the reason I bought more then 2x what I wanted to end up with) And BTW other then shipping the ones I bought were the same price as local eggs. For me its not a bid deal as it really doesn't cost me a dime other then some of my ebay profits. Which is more or less a hobby for me anyway.​

 

[Katy]

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Sure it is a great comparison as you dont know whether or not they will work. Yes they are diffrent, ones living. and ones not.... but valid comparisons can definetly be made.

Sorry but in my opinion there is no comparison.....more than likely whether the car part works or not isn't because the PO didn't handle the box carefully. That can make all the difference with hatching eggs

Since you're new to chickens and hatching eggs I'd say you have little to no personal experience with hatching eggs being shipped. A person with shipped egg experience knows that you're very, very lucky if 50% hatch......anymore than that is a bonus and less than that is just the risk you take.

I don't disagree with the second part of your statment but thanks for putting it in the context of I dont know what I'm talking about so my opinion doesn't matter. BTW... thats why I bought 30 eggs even though I don't want close to that many chickens.... 3 or 4 tops. If I have more Ill give them away. Its more for a learning experience for me.... and my 2 daughters.

Yes, I don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to hatching eggs. I never said your opinion doesn't matter....but I don't think your opinion is based on knowledge about hatching eggs

I've never had any problems selling my eggs on here and I've always said there are no guarentees with shipped eggs.

One reason I don't sell on ebay is because of people with your attitude.

Did I mention I have almost 900 feedback with 100% positive and about to get power seller status???? Did I not say that I gave the seller glowing reviews in the end? It was her pushy attitude that turned me off?? Are you not reading???? I did give her positive with 5 stars. OR are you trying to deamonize me to justify how you chose to treat people?
Ohh... and thanks for not making it personal your highness.

I think you're the one making it personal.....calling people names isn't very nice

I really don't care about your feedback numbers....they are a moot point since you have no experience shipping or selling hatching eggs which is what this discussion is about.

I have refused to sell to some people new to hatching because I did not want them wasting their money...and my eggs have always sold for a good price.....when they have no experience hatching eggs. I tell them I'll gladly sell to them after they've done some trial runs with cheap, local eggs.

I have no desire to deal with people who don't understand the risks that go with shipped hatching eggs. The fact is that you are lucky if any of the eggs hatch.....it's just the way it is.

A regular saint saving the common man money. If it was really about the money I would have just got some chicks........You know at some point... you were new to hatching eggs. Whether or not you got them locally (which I tried but coudnt find what I wanted) or bought them over the mail. (again the reason I bought more then 2x what I wanted to end up with) And BTW other then shipping the ones I bought were the same price as local eggs. For me its not a bid deal as it really doesn't cost me a dime other then some of my ebay profits. Which is more or less a hobby for me anyway.

Yep...I was new to chickens...almost 60 years ago. Believe it or not people have been grateful when I was honest about not selling to them.....there are many sellers out there who'd sell them expensive eggs and not say a word about their inexperience and the fact that they were more than likely throwing their money away.​

 

[halo]

For someone who has been a member for 2 weeks with 35 posts, you might think that another person who has been a member for nearly 4 years with nearly 15,000 posts (Katy??? you blabbing that much?) would be a person that you might defer to their experience, at this point. Since you are new, perhaps you can see that Katy has a lot of experience (a lot!!) that you could learn from. Katy has hatched more chicks, shipped more eggs, calved more cows, in one year than you have in your lifetime, and has been around the coop a time or two.

Just sayin....

 

[punky rooster]

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I agree.

 

[Katy]

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I agree.

Thank you!

And yes halo....I guess I been blabbing a lot!!

 

[bigtime400]

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This is my original post....
I think that something is getting lost here..

First of all......I am new. I am well aware of this.

THATS WHY I POST QUESTIONS

Is this normal for how you treat new people?

I always look to forums for info on subject that I am intrested in. F-150 forum, Chrysler minivan forum, tresurehunters.net, amc forum, etc. Never before have I been lambasted by one of the members making me feel like I need to defend my thinking which alot if for argument sake but it does have merit.

 

[Katy]

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I had no problem with your original post.....the one that I included and highlighted here is what I took issue with. You were going on about something that you have no experience or knowledge about....other than purchasing one set of hatching eggs.