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Cream Legbar cross genetics and (auto)sexing

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by LAFreewayChickens, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    the Black chick may verywell be a hen also.... Why? because 100% of the hens and males will get the sex linked barred genes....

    the white hen may very welll be Extended black or Birchen with a single dose of dominant white... making the black chick a E/e+ B/b+ and i+/i+(black barred male) or E/e+ B/- i+/i+ which is a female
     
  2. TheFF

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    Quote: I was re reading my post and I think it was a little confusing. Then hen in the pic is not the mother, just a broody I used. Both chicks have the same dad, Cream Legbar. The light chick came from an EE (pure white) and the black chick came from a Cochin(grey/silver). So the light chick (w/ light Chipmunk stripes) is a hen? And the black chick (w/ a head spot) might be a hen or a roo?
    Thanks for you patience, I'm new to all this stuff.
     
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  3. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:well from those pics(need better one and a close up to the head) the light chick looks like a wildtype e+ hen with dominant white I/i+
     
  4. TheFF

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    Quote:
    Here are some better pics, they have feathers on their wings now, I don't know if that matters.
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  5. familypendragon

    familypendragon Chillin' With My Peeps

    nicalandia, I have 6 eggs in the bator with CCL roo over Golden Laced Wyandotte. Can you give me an idea of what the chicks might look like? I know probably a greenish egg - but how about appearance? Thank you!!!
     
  6. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:I cant see the yellow chicks top of the head very well.... and the black chick is a pullet alright....
     
  7. nicalandia

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    Quote:I guesstimated the outcome of a similar cross.... and was actually correct.. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/745444/welsummer-cross-wyandotte another Wyandotte Welsumer cross https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/457668/wyandotte-welsummer-cross-cockerel-or-pullet but you will say? why Welsumer? well welsumers are like a welbar(autosexing breed just like legbar) without sexlinked barring.. and like welbars welbars and legbars share the following genetic make up.... e+e+(wildtype) need it for autosexing and B/B(Barring) now if you cross the Male from that cross(F1 from Wyandote to Legbar) you will be infact re creating the Gold Wybar breed... or at least getting to that Whats the Wybar? here check this link...http://www.britannicrarebreeds.co.uk/breedinfo/chicken_wybar.php http://www.autosexing.co.uk/wybar.html
     
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  8. TheFF

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    Quote: Cool!
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    I don't know if this pic is any better... When it was younger the stripes were really defined and all the way down it's back.

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    I really appreciate all the info and hope that some day I know as much as you, nicalandia.
     
  9. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    here a few links of how bantam gold wybars should look like......


    single barred male show alot more gold to him


    Single Barred Gold laced wyandotte AKA gold Wybar
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    now here with double barred males(lighter color, kind of look like cream colored birds, but they lack the cream gene, its the double barring gene doing the diluting)

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    source
    http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/f...ion/305733-tongue-tied-about-feathers-ha.html
     
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  10. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    both Females
     
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