Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[Shyla-C]

I've been reading all of them and each thread seems to have its own character. Any thread may peter out on its own once its run its life-expectancy.

This thread may have staying power once a standard it approved as people would come here to post pictures of their chickens for others to comment on how they rate against the standard, vs joys and concerns about raising Legbars. I personally wouldn't lock it. I think its handy to have several threads concentrating on different areas of the same breed. I have given up reading some breed threads because they get too cumbersome wading though looking for specific information. It might be good to make sure the titles match the content though.

I agree with dretd. Once I get some Cream Legbars, if I had questions about them meeting the proposed SOP I would come here to ask. You all have done such a great job hashing out the details of the SOP. If I had questions about breeding them I would more than likely choose a different thread. I'm not sure what one as I am just learning about these beautiful birds and haven't visited all the threads yet, but would be more likely to go to a thread for the specific variety of Legbar I had. Just my 2 cents, from a new Cream Legbar enthusiast.

 

[laurrie]

Hi
looking for cream leg bars live near Oregon, in Washington. Are your eggs really dark blue? The creams eggs i saw in other posts are lighter did
you do some painting to your eggs (they look great dark blue) wondering if you put some of your artistic abiility or if they came out of the hen that
dark? Sincerely L email on site thanks! where can we get besides greenfire farms is that where you purchased your CLBs? thanks much!!!

 

[bargain]

Please don't shut this thread. You have already given me much help and HOPE on our "sports" in the cream legbar and I have a gene chart and a plan with the small grouping I do have. I have wanted cream legbars for egg color, feathering, sex related trait and to enjoy them. I was just about despondent until I got some help here. I would appreciate if some one could attach other BYC groups re. legbars or pm me to the other groupings including the club... I want to get saturated in knowledge. I do plan to run a grouping of the "sports" they are just babies now so I don't have any plans but just to raise them up. With permission I would like to post a few pics of the 3 eldest Cream Legbars (children of the originals) who might carry white recessive gene, since some but not all of their siblings are visually white. Just my two cents. Thanks and have a blessed day!

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Post away! As mentioned this thread is more for SOP discussion. I would post your pictures on the Cream Legbar thread or on The Legbar Thread! We also have information here at Cream Legbar Club -- WWIT (as in What Would it Take). As the club is fully formed now that thread is pretty much over but you can glean some information from it. If you will head over to the temporary club website you can sign up for the club and I will send you a link to the Clubhouse where there is more information. Welcome and enjoy!

Rinda

 

[redchicken9]

OK, so this is still the place for the SOP type stuff. I'll see if I can muster up some time to start populating it with photos and thoughts again.
Now, what is on my mind is tail feathers. My males have lots of fun things going on like squirrel tails and pinched tails. For pinched I mean flattened vertically, ie. not a nice tent at the back. Since some of you are real pros. If I get myself organized and post a bunch of rear tail shots, anyone up to talking about what a nice cream legbar tail looks like?

 

[KPenley]

Sure

 

[ChicKat]

OK, so this is still the place for the SOP type stuff. I'll see if I can muster up some time to start populating it with photos and thoughts again.
Now, what is on my mind is tail feathers. My males have lots of fun things going on like squirrel tails and pinched tails. For pinched I mean flattened vertically, ie. not a nice tent at the back. Since some of you are real pros. If I get myself organized and post a bunch of rear tail shots, anyone up to talking about what a nice cream legbar tail looks like?

It is time for the tails isn't it? So that's what a pinched tail is huh? O.K. now I know. I have a question, if just the two giant sickles are squirrel and the rest of the tail is correct - is it still a squirrel tail?

 

[KPenley]

It is time for the tails isn't it? So that's what a pinched tail is huh? O.K. now I know. I have a question, if just the two giant sickles are squirrel and the rest of the tail is correct - is it still a squirrel tail?

I think that is a type of split tail, which in a cockeral would be a point deduction, but in a Roo a disqualification.

Usually from the back a pinched tail looks all squished up together, no spread from side to side. This following thread has some great pics and I will quote TK Poultry in post 5 who describes a pinched tail as "when you look at it from the side it resembles a fan that you would use on yourself. I often think of the Asian hand fan things that you see. but with a pinched tail it looks like that fan is folded up".
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/499087/what-is-a-pinched-tail

 

[dretd]

It is time for the tails isn't it? So that's what a pinched tail is huh? O.K. now I know. I have a question, if just the two giant sickles are squirrel and the rest of the tail is correct - is it still a squirrel tail?

I believe that the definition of Squirrel Tail is if the tail extends forward beyond a 90-degree angle with the back (or beyond perpendicular) . I would take that to mean the two central sickle feathers. Perhaps you can post a photo of your roo from the side and we can look at it with an objective eye to see if it really goes beyond that imaginary 90 degree line from the back?

 

[dretd]

Here is an excerpt from a very old book (1921) Standard Poultry for Exhibition: A Complete Manual... - By John Henry Robinson

"Nearly all high-tailed birds carry their tails at times so high that if judged with the tail at highest angle they would be disqualified for squirrel tail. A judge in passing on the point is supposed to take into consideration the tendency of birds to throw the tail up when excited and to make an effort to have the bird pose with the tail at a proper angle. Unless a bird persists in throwing the tail past the allowed limit for disqualification a judge does not disqualify it for this fault , but he does discount as serious fault the carrying of the tail at any angle higher than that described in the Standard for the breed..."

So it would only be considered squirrel tail it is always is carried beyond perpendicular, not if it flicks up beyond because to roo is excited. Does anyone know what the tail angle is going to be in the proposed SOP for Cream Legbars?