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Thanks for your comments. These two were hatched from Blackbirds13's eggs. She has done a wonderful job with her flock. I, too like Cumberbatch quite a bit.
I actually think he is too light in some respects. If you look at the chest comparison between he and his hatch-mate, Cumberbatch has a pale barred breast where Barnaby has a dark slate barred breast. The SOP says "breast: dark grey, evenly barred, well defined outline" so in this respect, B wins over C
Barnaby left, Cumberbatch, right
As for Arthur (my hubby calls him Richard III), although he is pretty and not as colorful as some examples of CLs lacking ig/ig I believe that he is gold as evidenced by the gold on his secondaries.
If you (re)read Punnett's chapter on his Cream experiments http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jgenet/48/327.pdf
He concludes his section of Cream on the Brown Leghorn:
"...though less intense, chestnut in the Brown Leghorn remains chestnut in its cream counterpart. The difference in ground colour between cream and gold offers a chance of distinguishing in a black-red between coloration due to gold and that due to chestnut. Such a test is the outer web of the secondaries which in the Brown Leghorn is of a bright gold-brown. on Pl. 14, figs. 1 and 2 are shown two corresponding secondaries of a normal Brown Leghorn (m) and a cream. The bright brown outer web of the former is replaced in the latter by white. The inference is that in the black-red (m) this part of the colour scheme is dependant on the development of gold pigment, and is independent of chestnut."
Although he was using this as a test between gold and chestnut, he states that in cream the outer web of the secondaries ( I called this the leading web) are white, not gold. So until proven otherwise, I am going with looking at the secondaries in males (wing triangle/wing bay) to determine ig/ig status. If they are white and brown/gold then I am calling the rooster a non-ig/ig (gold) bird. If they are white and grey, then I am going with the assumption they are ig/ig (cream).
In Arthur's case he could very well be Ig/ig. Alas, I will not be able to so test matings with him because his scoliosis is so bad he can't crow let alone mount a hen.
Do you think a good colored male produces a good colored female?
Well him and three laying hens are all I have. I can only keep a few favorites at a time. So ill see what I get from it all. I candled the eggs and they're developing! Almost all 15 ! So it's going to be tough choices for me.
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@ Niclandia - Thanks.
I did not realize they were from my eggs but it feels good to see them looking so nice. Adds to the anticipation for next year.
Thanks for your comments. These two were hatched from Blackbirds13's eggs. She has done a wonderful job with her flock. I, too like Cumberbatch quite a bit.
I actually think he is too light in some respects. If you look at the chest comparison between he and his hatch-mate, Cumberbatch has a pale barred breast where Barnaby has a dark slate barred breast. The SOP says "breast: dark grey, evenly barred, well defined outline" so in this respect, B wins over C
Barnaby left, Cumberbatch, right
As for Arthur (my hubby calls him Richard III), although he is pretty and not as colorful as some examples of CLs lacking ig/ig I believe that he is gold as evidenced by the gold on his secondaries.
If you (re)read Punnett's chapter on his Cream experiments http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jgenet/48/327.pdf
He concludes his section of Cream on the Brown Leghorn:
"...though less intense, chestnut in the Brown Leghorn remains chestnut in its cream counterpart. The difference in ground colour between cream and gold offers a chance of distinguishing in a black-red between coloration due to gold and that due to chestnut. Such a test is the outer web of the secondaries which in the Brown Leghorn is of a bright gold-brown. on Pl. 14, figs. 1 and 2 are shown two corresponding secondaries of a normal Brown Leghorn (m) and a cream. The bright brown outer web of the former is replaced in the latter by white. The inference is that in the black-red (m) this part of the colour scheme is dependant on the development of gold pigment, and is independent of chestnut."
Although he was using this as a test between gold and chestnut, he states that in cream the outer web of the secondaries ( I called this the leading web) are white, not gold. So until proven otherwise, I am going with looking at the secondaries in males (wing triangle/wing bay) to determine ig/ig status. If they are white and brown/gold then I am calling the rooster a non-ig/ig (gold) bird. If they are white and grey, then I am going with the assumption they are ig/ig (cream).
In Arthur's case he could very well be Ig/ig. Alas, I will not be able to so test matings with him because his scoliosis is so bad he can't crow let alone mount a hen.
