Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[nicalandia]

Earlier, I had said since I have so many cockerels here I would post number of them -- I think perhaps they are all 'crele'. Or more saturated Legbars. As I posted earlier the judge told me he was expecting more color

I think my goal is going to be the neat plumage pattern shown in the Leghorn grid:



not the silver and not the gold....but with that pattern.

ETA edited for misuse of the word type. should have said variety.

did he said that after seeing your birds? he wants more color? that would make them Plain Old Crele, not Cream...

Oh and this is How a Legbar Male Pattern be, with Clearly Barred Secondaries(I did a bad Paint Job here but you get the point)

 

[ChicKat]

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I think that the judge did really a fabulous job giving me pointers. Cream is like the color that the Dutch Bantam has.

 

[ChicKat]

This is correct.....good observation.

Walt

Thank you Walt, very valuable, and the next objective I have will be the back and tail sets...so it helps to know what isn't right and what to move away from.

 

[nicalandia]

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I was just pointing out about the wing secondaries barring, cream color is a subjective , Grey and Clearly Barred is notines like the Jill reese lines lack this trait, Edit.. but your males that you just posted on this same page are as cream if not more colorfull than that that ductch banatam henk has? did the judge saw your birds and said he wanted to see more color? or he said that while lookig at lighter birds?

 

[KPenley]

I think that the judge did really a fabulous job giving me pointers.  Cream is like the color that the Dutch Bantam has. 

But of course we have barring. So it will never be the same as a Cream Dutch or Brabanter. I think the judges are doing a great job interpreting the standard and are learning lots right along side us. Thank you to everyone for your hard work!

 

[nicalandia]

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he is talking about Henks double barred dutch bantam, which is not cream but has a creamy color to it because it lacks red enhancers, he is just gold duckwing with double barring doing the dilution.. edit. this male.

Over All this Male has very good features that some CL are lacking(Color and Wing Secondaries proper Barring) Like More "Cream Colored" Than GFF First Stock of CL that they imported a few years back ]

and having Proper barring on "Wing Secondaries", some lines of CL like the Jill Rees lack proper barring on the secondaries and instead have white/cream wing triangles..

 

[KPenley]

Oh ok. Thanks for the correction M!

 

[nicalandia]

Oh ok. Thanks for the correction M!

edit. this male.

Over All this Male has very good features that some CL are lacking(Color and Wing Secondaries proper Barring)

Like More "Cream Colored" Than GFF First Stock of CL that they imported a few years back

and having Proper barring on "Wing Secondaries", some lines of CL like the Jill Rees lack proper barring on the secondaries and instead have white/cream wing triangles..

 

[ChicKat]

Here is an example of cream
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isn't that guy one of the cutest things you have ever seen? this is a Cream Light Brown Dutch Bantam. nicalandia could take his plain cream and put white stripes on the cream and on the dark -- to show barring. The SOP for a Cream Legbar calls for Cream...this would be what I would expect to see for cream. (with barring in it it would lighten - but not turn white IMO). When the judges have said they expect more color - or as our other judge said expect more cream - he is expectiong to see an expression of this color more than the white looking hackles.

Cream Brabanters -- very much darker. You can google Cream Light Brown Dutch Bantam and you can see a range of creams some are darker some are lighter.... I don't see any that look white.

Although I am very glad the judges have told us this at two shows now--- and I think it will lead to a far prettier and more distinctive bird -- it is thier interpretation of Cream -- and the little guy above looks more butter-like - so it would match with what the UK judge says. The Jill bird that nicalandia showed above doesn't have a pale butter color. Yes it will be harder to achieve than the ones that look white - but it will be better for the breed IMO.

 

[KPenley]

I hear you Kathy. I guess this is one of those interpretation areas where I read "more color" and assume people are talking about the bright red shoulders, backs etc ( not correct) etc and you just mean creamy hackles (correct) LOL! Best wishes!