Cream Legbars

[aart]

But only one is correct.

And which is that?

 

[duluthralphie]

The name of the breed is Cream legbar.

 

[aart]

The name of the breed is Cream legbar.

So CLB is the 'correct' abbreviation?
Not called Crested Cream Legbar or CCL?

 

[Bantambird]

I guess I am going to start calling sultans crested sultans, or crested polish. Maybe crested silkies.....

I'm funny

 

[duluthralphie]

So CLB is the 'correct' abbreviation?
Not called Crested Cream Legbar or CCL?

Correct, the Cream Legbar club is trying to educate people on the correct name.


To call them creates cream legbars implies there are Cream Legbars that do not have a crest.

The proposed SOPs for all three varieties require a crest.


I am hoping the Cream Legbar club is will at some future date work on Rose Comb Legbars., which is way off topic, a crest will again be required.

 

[Bantambird]

Ore even.... Get this... Crested Appenzeller Spitzhaben...

 

[Bantambird]

So this guy is a c line cockerel. I've not really been looking, although I would like to find an ab line replacement cockerel, but I snagged this one for free. He has a major flaw in his comb, however, and it may be a deal breaker. Otherwise, he's pretty good. Except for his crooked comb and his side sprigs........
Opinions? My flock could use the new blood but he might cause problems too.

 

[duluthralphie]

Sprigs are genetic as I understand it. I am betting someone added a barred bird into the mix a couple generations back to bring the sprigs in.

He looks more cuckoo than barred.

I think I would pass on him.

 

[Bantambird]

As soon as I saw the sprigs, I really felt conflicted. His brother and sister both have crooked toe too. *Sigh* I really don't want to screw up my Combs. I've worked hard on even Combs and he would undo that. This is a wierd year. Perhaps next year I'll be able to source an ab line cockerel to bring in, but I doubt there is much close.

 

[GaryDean26]

I would suspect that your C-line cockerel may be crossed with AB lines if you are seeing side sprigs. in 2012 my best pullet from my favorite foundation had a small side sprig so I didn't keep her. I think that is the only side spring I have seen in my legbars in 8 years. I dealt with a lot of side springs in Black Copper Marans lines though. The side spring is a double dominant gene. There are two sets of chromosomes at play. it looks something like this:

A = gene #1
a = lack of gene #1
B = gene #2
b = lack of gene #2

[AA/bb] = no side spring. Even though the birds is carrying two copies of gene #1 it is not expressed because there is a lack of gene #2.

[Aa/Ba] = side springs. Even though there is only one copy of gene #1 and one copy of gene #2 the side spring is expressed because it is a co-dependant dominant gene.

So through culling, you could get well-established breeding lines that are a carrier or a complete for one of the two genes and you will never see a side spring because the other gene has been bred out of the line. If you cross the line with another line that is carrying the other gene side spring come out.

So...side springs are nearly always the result of crossing lines. You can do test matings for the two genes but it is a major undertaking and not worth it since you can breed it out of a line with good culling and skip the test mating process. Breeding birds with the side springs is a bad idea because it passed both the genes onto offspring and with it being a dominant gene it becomes a problem fairly quickly.