Cream Legbars

[CibolaChooks]

Would the hen above and the roo below be considered "cream" in color - I'm still trying to lock it in my head exactly what I'm looking for

on the pullet i kinda think its a cream hen. Just like some cream males will be exactly how garydean described with no color in the bay of the wings and the nice cream ground color in the hackles, BUT they still have allot more chestnut in the wing than one would like. also some have amazing cream color to the hackles and bay of the wing yet have a lil more of the marshmallowy yellowish color in the neck hackles than is desired.

I believe that both are cream, but its not a magical thing. cream doesn't mean perfect cream. it will still take refining to get them where we want them even after we all have a cream flock. Of my larger birds hatched this year i have 3 cream roos and 4 not. The cream ones still need work. refinement on the combs tail angles and 1 with a tiny bit more chestnut color to the shoulder of the wing than i would like. so they all still need to be worked on. Its just baby steps. I've reduced the amount of color in my cockerels by 80-90% so for me that is good enough to make the next steps. If i tried to wait around for perfect cream birds to further my line i would never get there.

I think the hen color on the back of the neck is definitely cream. If their relation to each other allows you to breed them, you can breed those together and you should get mostly creams. But only a few really nice birds to move forward with. and if the wire is hiding the hens 6th point that would be even better. .

 

[racinchickins]

The cockerel is Cream. The way to tell is to look at the saddle feathers. If they are that Marshmallow white color then you have a cream ground color. You also can look at the bays of the wing, but that is a little less clear for me. A cream ground colored cockerel won't have any rust, brown, red or gold in the bay of the wing.

As for the pullet, I would think that one is gold. The hackle is where I look at on the hens. They should have the Marshmallow color hackle. some of the gold birds will have very light color so this can be hard to tell, but this one looks to have color on the brow about the eyes and well as the front of the neck etc. The gold birds that are lighter in color tend to be the ones that are carriers for cream.

newbie here. What do you mean by the 'bays of the wings'?

 

[1muttsfan]

He may have meant wing bows -

 

[lilliesanchicks]

Am I right in guessing I Hatched 3 boys and 1 girl.

 

[KPenley]

That would be my guess too lilliesanchicks

 

[lonnyandrinda]

That would be my guess too lilliesanchicks

X2

 

[chicken pickin]

This is my Rooster he is 6 months old. Any thoughts on him. Right now he has no legbar girls just a pen of hens to make EEs for the time being. But incase I do decide on Cream legbar hens also is he a good roo to start with?

 

[GaryDean26]

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newbie here. What do you mean by the 'bays of the wings'?

The wing bay is the triangle of color on the tip of the wing that is made up of primary flight feathers. In a crow wing birds (Birchen colors) the bay of the wing is black. In a duck wing type bird (wild type) such as the Cream Legbar you have a colored wing bay. In Silver ground colored birds the bay of the wing will be white, in gold birds it will be gold, and in cream birds it will be an off white (cream) color. The bow of the wing is the sholder of the wing and should not be confusred with the bay of the wing.

Photos and descriptions of the correct wing bay colors can be found on post #137 of the Cream Legbar Working Group Standard of Perfection originally Posted by nicalandia

 

[ChicKat]

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The wing bay is the triangle of color on the tip of the wing that is made up of primary flight feathers. In a crow wing birds (Birchen colors) the bay of the wing is black. In a duck wing type bird (wild type) such as the Cream Legbar you have a colored wing bay. In Silver ground colored birds the bay of the wing will be white, in gold birds it will be gold, and in cream birds it will be an off white (cream) color. The bow of the wing is the sholder of the wing and should not be confusred with the bay of the wing.

Photos and descriptions of the correct wing bay colors can be found on post #137 of the Cream Legbar Working Group Standard of Perfection originally Posted by nicalandia

Ahhhh --
oops, nope I still don't get it. (sorry)

I'm really starting to do some wondering about what isn't and is...

could you or someone make it really SIMPLE? Post two and only two pictures one with a cream bay and one without. Someone? Anyone? Photoshop a big circle around it...zoom in...There are too many birds and too many variations and too much terminology in nicalandias 137 for easy comprehension IMO. JMO maybe. Thanks.

 

[ChicKat]

This is my Rooster he is 6 months old. Any thoughts on him. Right now he has no legbar girls just a pen of hens to make EEs for the time being. But incase I do decide on Cream legbar hens also is he a good roo to start with?

A lot of nice things going for your bird. Great yellow shanks...outstanding infact (on my monitor they really do stand out.) His stance reminds me of the bird that hahaUthinkSo sent us a link for as the British Standards for Legbars.... Here's a link:
http://s22.postimg.org/a50mu4qe9/online_standard.gif

He has some of the things that everyone is working on/needs to work on -- Hopefully his disposition is nice. all in all I would say -- go look for some nice female Cream Legbars and start raising them! Thanks for posting pictures.

ETA - I think in the second picture he is showing that 45-degree tail angle. That's another plus.!