Cream Legbars

[stake]

All:

I worked a number of years in photo/video....digital camera are better, but, lighting really affects what gets rendered in a photo...and everyones' eyes see color differently....my two cents,,,,,from my untrained eye,,,,all the roos posted recently look real nice....I guess if I was showing or breeding (which I may in the future) I might become more sensitive to the nuances....

 

[ChicKat]

All:

I worked a number of years in photo/video....digital camera are better, but, lighting really affects what gets rendered in a photo...and everyones' eyes see color differently....my two cents,,,,,from my untrained eye,,,,all the roos posted recently look real nice....I guess if I was showing or breeding (which I may in the future) I might become more sensitive to the nuances....

Thanks for the insight stake!

We really can only "ball park" coloration etc... because of exactly the things that you mentioned. Lighting is different, everyone's eyes are different, monitors make the same picture look different on various people's computers.... The good thing is that we are learning what to look for, and we are being educated on things we didn't know about before. I suppose that's one of the reasons that judges have to actually see and hold the bird. Nothing quite like up-close-and-personal for the true qualities of a chicken.

meanwhile, Please keep sharing any insights that may occur to you. :O)

 

[1muttsfan]

I know that the colors on the picture I posted are true to what the bird looked like - silvery around the hackles, pale gold in the saddle and wing.

 

[GaryDean26]

So - opinions color-wise?

And what about these 2 boys. Above is Jasper. His father was typical gold all the way. Jasper's Hackles are nice and light and his saddle feathers are lighter gold than his dad was. His wing bay is gold.

Below is Kisame. 3 1/2 month old cockerel. He came from Lorinda's flock. His father is a nice cream roo. His wing bay is mostly light but has specks of gold. I suspect his adult coloring will be similar to Jaspers.

Any thoughts about this?

[GD26] I am going to have to guess gold. The saddle feathers don't look diluted to me, but beautiful hackle.

 

[KPenley]

Well shoot, I was going on hackles instead of wing bay and saddle. Hopefully some of Grey's offspring will be cream since I really want to pass on his comb, neat crest, and personality!

 

[Triplell]

So sorry to hear that Triplell.  Hope your health gets better.  You might try posting a pic here for people to share around.  If they are good quality they will get snapped up quick.  Hope you are still able to follow along with the breed SOP development!  Any chance you might be able to get back into them again later?




X2! How exciting!

Thanks lonnyandrinda, I have been sick again and am now looing at surgery on my right foot again. Yes I do plan on staying with the Club and following along. I will try and upload some pics.

 

[dretd]

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GD26, unfortunately I think that we will always be guessing to a certain degree because of those modifiers you referred to. There are numerous red enhancers plus the idea of dark verses light barring plus the inherent depth of 'gold' the bird started with. What if dark barred roos have smudgy colored wing bays and light do not? What if only certain red enhancers lead to lemon barred wing bays? What if it's both of these factors in combination?

If someone were unsure and wanted to know for sure, instead of guessing, may I suggest some experimentation> Place the roo in question in with females with known cream coloration and see what the progeny look like. There should be 100% cream babies if he is cream and 50% (or 100%) gold if he is gold. There will have to be a lot of hatching to get the numbers significant, but if you could take a roo like Flaming Chicken's Jasper and do a lot of crosses you should be able to tell what the father's genetics are based on the babies. Then publish the result, of course!

 

[CibolaChooks]

I'm waiting for one of my hens to finish up her molt. she was the sister to my only cream hen i believe. she also had a crest but was more of the lemony yellow to gold coloration in the sun but when she was in the shade looked kinda cream color. she was raised last year had her adult molt and went threw the winter, this summer about a month ago she started this years molt. Her neck hackle feathers are coming in cream. her neck hackles are not fully cream yet but shes not done replacing feathers yet either. when her molt is over ill post before and after pics.

Also the black breasted pullet started out black. shes getting her adult feathers in and is now a dark salmon to almost a to dark of a salmon color. she still has that weird cream barring threw parts of her back and such like Jill Reese hens get. Ill try to get some pics of them also. before and afters of the black to salmon. as well as the large cream barring they get. .

Jill must be very selective with what she shows people. Ive seen some of her birds grown out that some one else owns and they were not that good. Ive also herd from a trustworthy source that a CL roo with a beard took second place against Jill's roo who got first. Just goes to show their is allot of problems in the UK blood as well as no real competition to the people who we supposedly think are the best. I mean i could take two crappy roos to a show here and get best of breed because no one else is showing a Cl. but that doesn't make my birds anything special they would still be the culls i took.

 

[Flaming Chicken]

[COLOR=FF8C00][GD26] I am going to have to guess gold.  The saddle feathers don't look diluted to me, but beautiful hackle. [/COLOR]

I agree! I am still in search of some good cream roosters. I have 3 cockerels from GF that came last week. One is super light and the other 2 have grey down. Hoping they will be good cream breeding stock.

 

[GaryDean26]

I'm waiting for one of my hens to finish up her molt. she was the sister to my only cream hen i believe. she also had a crest but was more of the lemony yellow to gold coloration in the sun but when she was in the shade looked kinda cream color. she was raised last year had her adult molt and went threw the winter, this summer about a month ago she started this years molt. Her neck hackle feathers are coming in cream. her neck hackles are not fully cream yet but shes not done replacing feathers yet either. when her molt is over ill post before and after pics.

Also the black breasted pullet started out black. shes getting her adult feathers in and is now a dark salmon to almost a to dark of a salmon color. she still has that weird cream barring threw parts of her back and such like Jill Reese hens get. Ill try to get some pics of them also. before and afters of the black to salmon. as well as the large cream barring they get. .

Jill must be very selective with what she shows people. Ive seen some of her birds grown out that some one else owns and they were not that good. Ive also herd from a trustworthy source that a CL roo with a beard took second place against Jill's roo who got first. Just goes to show their is allot of problems in the UK blood as well as no real competition to the people who we supposedly think are the best. I mean i could take two crappy roos to a show here and get best of breed because no one else is showing a Cl. but that doesn't make my birds anything special they would still be the culls i took.

Ya, it makes you wonder.

I rehomed 5 of my 12 month old hens yesterday. It was sad to see them go. I am going to try to rehome about 5 more. I collected an egg from my original hen yesterday for the incubator though. It will be the first time in over a year that eggs from her have gone in the incubator for us. Will be back up and running in the spring with the 3rd generation. We are hoping for low tail angles, straigh combs on cockerels, crests, cream plumage, 63g+ eggs, and 180+ egg in the first year of laying.