Cream Legbars

[chicken pickin]

@ChicKat

My pullets seem more gray than brown, though most are showing some brown smudging throughout the gray of the body and wings. I would definitely consider them to be a more cooler gray tone rather than the warmer taupe/brown we see sometimes.

This pullet so far seems to be gray I haven't noticed any brown smudging, though I have not fully looked her over. She does have a dark crest though.

 

[sol2go]

Exactly @ChicKat wing pic is a great example. The color smudges are so faint on his wing but you can see it.

Here are 2 of my CL males, one cream the other gold
This is an example of a cream Cream Legbars wing. Notice it shows no color besides gray and white.


and here is the gold Cream Legbar male I originally had (he carried a cream gene also, his offspring were 50/50 cream/gold) he has color smudges which we do not want to see on the wings.

I have also found this to be a helpful guide, thanks to all those who have reported this tip.

 

[GoodwinFarm]

Thank you Chickat. I didn't know there was such a site, I will look into it.

 

[ChicKat]

@ChicKat

My pullets seem more gray than brown, though they are showing brown smudging throughout the gray of the body and wings. I would definitely consider them to be a more cooler gray tone rather than the warmer taupe/brown we see sometimes.

This pullet so far seems to be gray I haven't noticed any brown smudging, though I have not fully looked her over. She does have a dark crest though.

I would agree. Those appear to have the gray back - and probably wings to match (the back and the SOP) BTW very nice pullet!

 

[ChicKat]

Thank you Chickat. I didn't know there was such a site, I will look into it.

Here is a link
http://www.creamlegbarclub.com/04-membership

I see a few states that may be reasonably close to your husband's trip. I know some of the Michiganders are pretty far North -- - Hope this helps a little - You may also check on the BYC Buy-sell-trade pages for 'wanted' -- And I have to honestly say I got my best (and my worst) Cream Legbars from Craigslist. So if you find some there-- be sure to check out carefully.
good luck - post back when you have them.....

 

[ChicKat]

Exactly @ChicKat wing pic is a great example. The color smudges are so faint on his wing but you can see it.

Here are 2 of my CL males, one cream the other gold
This is an example of a cream Cream Legbars wing. Notice it shows no color besides gray and white.


and here is the gold Cream Legbar male I originally had (he carried a cream gene also, his offspring were 50/50 cream/gold) he has color smudges which we do not want to see on the wings.

A lot of us do have a preference for a rooster than has a bit more color than the ones that have only light and dark gray. And there are a lot of chickens that fall into that category. I think that the dilemma may be -- what to do if the male that is at the farthest extent of lightness spectrum that I wish to raise and he turns out to have added coloration on his wings?

Working with the Cream Legbar Club - the idea is on the table to expand to an additional SOP for the tri-colored winged chickens - and instead of calling them "Gold" -- because Gold is already taken in the Legbar world -- we would call them Crele. While working on an SOP for a Crele Legbar, we could also work on an SOP for the recessive white ones - in each case, there would have to be enough interest in the maintaining the colorations to justify the effort. Make sense?

I think that bi-color and tri-color may be the dividing line - but it would be easy for people to tell which was which with a look at the secondaries. I think that the pictures that chicken pickin posted are something that has been needed for awhile. The Cream Legbar Club has a Board of Directors meeting on the 8th of October - so perhaps it can be decided then if there is support for working on an SOP for the 'more colorful' birds. :O)


Here is a rooster (scraggley and molting, I realize- and lots of flaws) -- but that is the farthest limit of lightness that I wish to go. I don't want one lighter than he was...Below is a wing shot of him ...and his wings were pretty splotchy-- and definitely tri-colored.

his barring is so irregluar compared to chicken pickin's rooster -- but definitely in the secondaries there is the third color. (thanks to dretd for spending a lot of time on the SOP and alerting me to this)--- so no wish to be lighter, no bi-color secondaries..... dead end?

There are definitions of Crele - one of them in the fly-tying word is 'tri-color' and one from a genetic perspective is Wild Type (e+) with the addition of barring (B). One of the genetic experts on BYC -- Chris09 -- did a very cool chart that talks about Crele and Incomplete Crele etc. -- If we end up going the route of working on another SOP to preserve and protect the Legbars that we want to raise--- I will bring that chart over to that thread.

 

[Bluefield]

Cream!?

 

[Brada Puhi]

I say yes. Now go check the wings.

 

[Brada Puhi]

Or does it only work for roosters?

 

[MrsFitzDarcy]

I have two CCL eggs due to hatch on Sunday. Lockdown was tonight. Wish me luck! I will be getting another dozen when I see how this hatch turns out ... it is my first.