Cream Legbars

If anyone in southeast PA is looking for CCL's, PM me, I have more hatching than I have housing for. I can try letting them free range on the farm with the mixed breed flock, but it seems a shame to risk them to predators and such if anyone local is wanting to try a CCL.

I also have an extra Jill Reese line roo, local pickup only, if you want to bring some new genetics into your flock.
 
Well...I was at an Atwoods on Monday and they had a limited number of poults, ducklings and chicks for sale. I was really suprised. I had never seen chicks at a feed stores this late in the year. I also had never seen poults at a feed store. Someone asked me if the Atwoods had and keets which really threw me through a loop. From the limited knowledge I have of Guinea Fowl I was under the impression that they only lay in the spring so I wouldn't think any keets would be available this time of year. Yep most of the stores don't offer chicks this time of year. When you are trying to get a flock that will be laying by spring it is nice to get stock in the fall though as you will have eggs in 5-6 months as opposed to waiting for a year.

The man in San Diego that had been breeding for 30 years didn't have the cream legbars 30 years ago. No one alive has been breeding them for 30 years. 30 years ago the only person that I know who had Cream Legbars was John Croome in the UK. He had worked as an undergraduate researcher at Cambridge University in the 1920's during the research project that resulted in Punnets discovery of auto-sexing in chickens. He because a lifetime enthusiast of the Auto-sexing breeds and was the President of the Auto-sexing Poultry Association of Great Britain for a number of year. I am guessing that when the Cambridge University dispersed their Cream Legbar flock in the 50's that Croome was one of the people to get that stock. At any rate in 1987 he gave some Cream Legbar Hatching eggs to David Applegarth who hatched two pullets. Before Croome passed away in 1988 he gave Applegarth a Gold and a Cream Legbar cockerel. David Applegarth spend many years rebuilding the Cream Legbar and as far as I know ALL the Cream Legbars in the UK and USA descend from the the work of Mr. Applegarth. So the Breed just about went extinct 30 years ago. The number of legbars in the UK are still very low, but they had a bit of a come back over the last 15 years which made the first imports to the USA possible in 2010. The offspring from those imports were first available in the USA late in 2011. So the Cream Legbar is a very young breed in this country. Only a handful of flocks in the USA been breed for even 4 years. It has been exciting to see the breed grow in the USA. Good luck will all your new chickens, and yes do get another Legbar. You are contributing to the recovery of a rare breed.
 
Mr. C - always enjoy the history reminders!

Regarding Guineas...I had to add that a friend of mine has had crazy hatching guineas this summer (like 100s). She free ranges her guineas and just found more keets this past week that had been hidden away and hatched quietly. Maybe different areas hatch at different parts of the year, but this year it sounds like summer was the preferred season.
 
Well...I was at an Atwoods on Monday and they had a limited number of poults, ducklings and chicks for sale. I was really suprised. I had never seen chicks at a feed stores this late in the year. I also had never seen poults at a feed store. Someone asked me if the Atwoods had and keets which really threw me through a loop. From the limited knowledge I have of Guinea Fowl I was under the impression that they only lay in the spring so I wouldn't think any keets would be available this time of year. Yep most of the stores don't offer chicks this time of year. When you are trying to get a flock that will be laying by spring it is nice to get stock in the fall though as you will have eggs in 5-6 months as opposed to waiting for a year.

The man in San Diego that had been breeding for 30 years didn't have the cream legbars 30 years ago. No one alive has been breeding them for 30 years. 30 years ago the only person that I know who had Cream Legbars was John Croome in the UK. He had worked as an undergraduate researcher at Cambridge University in the 1920's during the research project that resulted in Punnets discovery of auto-sexing in chickens. He because a lifetime enthusiast of the Auto-sexing breeds and was the President of the Auto-sexing Poultry Association of Great Britain for a number of year. I am guessing that when the Cambridge University dispersed their Cream Legbar flock in the 50's that Croome was one of the people to get that stock. At any rate in 1987 he gave some Cream Legbar Hatching eggs to David Applegarth who hatched two pullets. Before Croome passed away in 1988 he gave Applegarth a Gold and a Cream Legbar cockerel. David Applegarth spend many years rebuilding the Cream Legbar and as far as I know ALL the Cream Legbars in the UK and USA descend from the the work of Mr. Applegarth. So the Breed just about went extinct 30 years ago. The number of legbars in the UK are still very low, but they had a bit of a come back over the last 15 years which made the first imports to the USA possible in 2010. The offspring from those imports were first available in the USA late in 2011. So the Cream Legbar is a very young breed in this country. Only a handful of flocks in the USA been breed for even 4 years. It has been exciting to see the breed grow in the USA. Good luck will all your new chickens, and yes do get another Legbar. You are contributing to the recovery of a rare breed.
Thank you so much for clarifying! I'm still so curious where he got his stock, especially now that I know he felt the need to lie to me..
Not that I'm not goign to love my little girl regardless but it does raise some questions! Anywho, thank you so much!
 
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Well...I was at an Atwoods on Monday and they had a limited number of poults, ducklings and chicks for sale. I was really suprised. I had never seen chicks at a feed stores this late in the year. I also had never seen poults at a feed store. Someone asked me if the Atwoods had and keets which really threw me through a loop. From the limited knowledge I have of Guinea Fowl I was under the impression that they only lay in the spring so I wouldn't think any keets would be available this time of year. Yep most of the stores don't offer chicks this time of year. When you are trying to get a flock that will be laying by spring it is nice to get stock in the fall though as you will have eggs in 5-6 months as opposed to waiting for a year.

The man in San Diego that had been breeding for 30 years didn't have the cream legbars 30 years ago. No one alive has been breeding them for 30 years. 30 years ago the only person that I know who had Cream Legbars was John Croome in the UK. He had worked as an undergraduate researcher at Cambridge University in the 1920's during the research project that resulted in Punnets discovery of auto-sexing in chickens. He because a lifetime enthusiast of the Auto-sexing breeds and was the President of the Auto-sexing Poultry Association of Great Britain for a number of year. I am guessing that when the Cambridge University dispersed their Cream Legbar flock in the 50's that Croome was one of the people to get that stock. At any rate in 1987 he gave some Cream Legbar Hatching eggs to David Applegarth who hatched two pullets. Before Croome passed away in 1988 he gave Applegarth a Gold and a Cream Legbar cockerel. David Applegarth spend many years rebuilding the Cream Legbar and as far as I know ALL the Cream Legbars in the UK and USA descend from the the work of Mr. Applegarth. So the Breed just about went extinct 30 years ago. The number of legbars in the UK are still very low, but they had a bit of a come back over the last 15 years which made the first imports to the USA possible in 2010. The offspring from those imports were first available in the USA late in 2011. So the Cream Legbar is a very young breed in this country. Only a handful of flocks in the USA been breed for even 4 years. It has been exciting to see the breed grow in the USA. Good luck will all your new chickens, and yes do get another Legbar. You are contributing to the recovery of a rare breed.

There were a couple other breeds listed that haven 't been here for 30 years either. I know most all the serious breeders in CA, so if I had his name I could tell you if that is true or not.

Walt
 
They are hatchery birds that will be very healthy and fun, but not pure bred breeds.

Walt
Oh that makes sense on why they aren't as expensive as others! Thanks for the advice!
I was planning on going back and not that I have anything against birds that aren't purebred
but I'd just rather take my business else where because he flat out lied!

Thanks again!

How about Secret Hills Ranch near San Diego?
I was thinking about ordering a Cream Legbar, Lavender French Maran, and Isbar from them!
 
Oh that makes sense on why they aren't as expensive as others! Thanks for the advice!
I was planning on going back and not that I have anything against birds that aren't purebred
but I'd just rather take my business else where because he flat out lied!

Thanks again!

How about Secret Hills Ranch near San Diego?
I was thinking about ordering a Cream Legbar, Lavender French Maran, and Isbar from them!

Hi, welcome to Cream Legbars, and all things chickens.
Chickens Galore is a go to source for lots of people in L.A. County, with many repeat customers.

Anytime you want to move into breeder stock, i.e. people who may have specific interests, selective breeding programs, etc, consider looking online for the breeder club websites of any breed you are interested in. For example, the Cream Legbar Club website has a lot of information specific to Cream Legbars, and it also lists breeders by location. There are four breeders listed in California, including myself; I am in Southern California but I'm not sure where the others are located. You may also find other CL breeders and enthusiasts on this BYC thread, in the Southern California thread, or the buy/sell/trade section. Breeders will often ship hatching eggs, chicks, even started stock, so you can always find something you "need".

If you enjoy seeing lots of beautiful poultry under one roof, consider attending the Ventura Poultry Show, Bash at the Beach, Nov. 7 & 8; by Seaside Feather Fanciers. It is held at the Ventura County Fairgrounds, right off the beach. Breeders often have lovely started stock for sale, or you can make arrangements for future purchases. If any of that is misinformation, I'm hoping Walt will correct it.
 
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