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Hey everyone. I'm just dropping in to share my news and what's been going on. Unfortunately, i lost my CCL boy a few days ago. He had gotten really listless and droopy for the past week and no matter what i did i couldn't snap him or of it. Necropsy showed nothing out of the ordinary except an enormous liver/spleen. I now know the importance of keeping a backup at all times. He was a handsome boy and will be missed.

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Fortunately, i was able to find a replacement a few hours from here. He's far from perfect but I'm sure i can work with him. His comb is very straight but he has almost no crest at all. After quarentine, I'll be print him in with my best colored hens and the ones with the biggest crests to see what he produces. He doesn't have the crisp barring that my old boy had either. I guess I'll be raising up a lot of cockerels. What do you guys think of him?

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Auroradream26 said:
Hey everyone. I'm just dropping in to share my news and what's been going on. Unfortunately, i lost my CCL boy a few days ago. He had gotten really listless and droopy for the past week and no matter what i did i couldn't snap him or of it. Necropsy showed nothing out of the ordinary except an enormous liver/spleen. I now know the importance of keeping a backup at all times. He was a handsome boy and will be missed.



Fortunately, i was able to find a replacement a few hours from here. He's far from perfect but I'm sure i can work with him. His comb is very straight but he has almost no crest at all. After quarentine, I'll be print him in with my best colored hens and the ones with the biggest crests to see what he produces. He doesn't have the crisp barring that my old boy had either. I guess I'll be raising up a lot of cockerels. What do you guys think of him?



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A sure sign of alcoholism, I was told it is genetic in CLBs!.......
 
I've had fatty liver disease and also what looked like poisoned liver show up in cream Legbar necropsies on several hens. The first one was young, and had never laid an egg. One day I found her, panting in a corner, and I thought she was possibly egg bound on her first egg. She died right as I brought her into the house, which was certainly a surprise. I took her to my mom's office( she's a veterinarian) for a necropsy, and we found what looked like fatty liver disease. Her liver was 3 times normal size, and it almost fell apart when lifted out of the body cavity. It was also way too pink. Proper liver color is like a maroon red or dark red. And the lobes should hold together, and not look friable. What clenched fatty liver was the layer of yellow oils found around and permeating the liver. These are unsaturated fats. Since I haven't fed my birds unsaturated fatty seeds like sunflower seeds, I'm not sure how my pullet ended up with it, but sometimes it can be a fluke, or sometimes it can be genetic, or perhaps she was eating something while free ranging that she shouldn't have. Either way, that's my fatty liver story.
 
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I've had fatty liver disease and also what looked like poisoned liver show up in cream Legbar necropsies on several hens. The first one was young, and had never laid an egg. One day I found her, panting in a corner, and I thought she was possibly egg bound on her first egg. She died right as I brought her into the house, which was certainly a surprise. I took her to my mom's office( she's a veterinarian) for a necropsy, and we found what looked like fatty liver disease. Her liver was 3 times normal size, and it almost fell apart when lifted out of the body cavity. It was also way too pink. Proper liver color is like a maroon red or dark red. And the lobes should hold together, and not look friable. What clenched fatty liver was the layer of yellow oils found around and permeating the liver. These are unsaturated fats. Since I haven't fed my birds unsaturated fatty seeds like sunflower seeds, I'm not sure how my pullet ended up with it, but sometimes it can be a fluke, or sometimes it can be genetic, or perhaps she was eating something while free ranging that she shouldn't have. Either way, that's my fatty liver story.
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What are the symptoms before they die?

Are they paralyzed? Is or can the symptoms be confused for Mareks?
 
Well, they usually get a distended abdomen owing to their enlarged liver pushing all the other guys out of place, and they start gasping because their lungs are crowded. Since the liver becomes pink it no longer is functioning and friable means it is decaying, so the extra lobes are built by the liver in an attempt to self repair, as it's one of the few internal organs that can somewhat regrow, in a fashion. I never noticed paralysis in my 2 girls that had enlarged livers. The second one I am sure was poisoned by eating Blueboard styrafoam insulation. It took her several months to die, and I had no idea until it was too late. My dad accidentally left some scraps out and chickens loooooves eating styrafoam, although I am not sure why I threw it all away as soon as I realised but I was obviously too late. Blueboard has flame retardant in it, among other things, and her liver did not have the oil, but was still enlarged and had a mottled grayish tone, like it had been dead for a while( poison) in blotches, but not spots, and no tumors. So, fatty liver, the big tell is that yellow grease. Poison seems to be blotchy, but NOT tumor spotted. I don't know for sure, I'd have to bug my mom for more details.
 
I hatched these guys out at the beginning of the year, like January. Definitely not short days. I can understand this would affect those hatching later in the year. Im also hoping as they approach their first year that egg size improves in the 17' season. Right now I have about the equivelent of 1.6oz eggs. Similar in size to what my Hamburg is laying and she's a slightly smaller bird. I won't hatch chicks from eggs this small so it'll be at least a full year and some change before I see what my flock can really do.
 
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My two that are laying started with 30-35 gram eggs and are now up to 40-45 grams. All my research on the breed said 50 grams is the average and I would think we will be at or near that by spring. We definately do not have round blue eggs though which is what the breed material said. We have egg shaped green to blue green eggs
 

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