Cream Legbars

[sol2go]

Congrats on your new bird! You will love Cream Legbars. You bird is considered a Gold Legbar. But as I understand it , her crest may be too dark to make her a Golden Crele Legbar. I'll let the more knowledgeable ones on that variety chime in on that. Now all she needs are some friends

Popping in to say -
The (British) Gold Legbar is fairly different from the (British/American) Cream Legbar and (American) Golden Crele Legbar.

Both the Cream Legbar and the Golden Crele Legbar must have a crest and should lay blue(-ish) eggs. They are different color varieties of the same crested breed, but "crested" is not used in the name.

The Gold Legbar has no crest and does not lay blue eggs.

And we all need friends!

 

[sol2go]

this is the almost black chick now.

Does he actually have black and gold/chestnut barring in both his hackle and saddle feathers? The hackle and saddle feathers are nearly matched, just a little halo at the bottom of the hackle feathers. It is nice to see the match, plus the black in the saddle feathers is a bonus.

 

[HaplessRunner]

There are no limits to the number of entries. In fact, we encourage you enter as many as you wish. I enter ~ a dozen birds last year.

 

[HaplessRunner]

While she is a pretty bird, I offer the following comments. She is a golden crele legbar variety since her hackle feathers are gold and not cream. Also, the feathers in the breast area should not be black tipped. She has nice a nice comb, crest, ears, and yellow legs. Unfortunately, the breast feather coloring is a major fault.

 

[holm25]

While she is a pretty bird, I offer the following comments. She is a golden crele legbar variety since her hackle feathers are gold and not cream. Also, the feathers in the breast area should not be black tipped. She has nice a nice comb, crest, ears, and yellow legs. Unfortunately, the breast feather coloring is a major fault.

Thanks for the info! I think she is prettier with them lol! I have no interest in breeding these birds so she will be for laying and adding color to the egg basket! She and her sister are going in with a big Cochin rooster...

 

[HaplessRunner]

No problem! She is your bird and she should give you many beautiful blue-green eggs.

 

[rottlady]

Gold Legbar is a totally different breed that lays white eggs
Cream legbars are a crested blue- green egg laying bird with 3 color varieties:
Cream
Golden crele
White

 

[GaryDean26]

Gold Legbar is a totally different breed that lays white eggs
Cream legbars are a crested blue- green egg laying bird with 3 color varieties:
Cream
Golden crele
White

I have owned 1) white egg laying non-crested Gold Legbars, 2) Blue Egg layings split crested, split gold/cream legbars, and 3) blue egg laying crested Cream Legbars. They are all the same breed. Can you tell which one is what? If not they may not be as different as you think they are. They are all the same breed. Just different varieties.

A single comb large fowl dark brown Leghorn is very different from a Rose comb large fowl light brown Leghorn but they are the same Breed different varieties. You would never want to breed the two together because the are not compatible for breeding, but they are the same breed. Likewise you would never want to cross the Legbar varieties. Breed within the variety with out crossing them.

 

[rottlady]

No a gold Legbar is a totally different breed not just a crestless cream or Crele Legbar
The Gold Legbar was developed from the Brown Leghorn and Plymouth Rock and lay a white egg.

 

[GaryDean26]

No a gold Legbar is a totally different breed not just a crestless cream or Crele Legbar
The Gold Legbar was developed from the Brown Leghorn and Plymouth Rock and lay a white egg.

I think you are confused. Here is the PCGB standard for the Legbar. It list three varieties.

1) Gold
2) Silver
3) Cream

I have never owned Silver Legbars but I have own Gold Legbars (white egg laying non-crested) and I have owned Cream Legbars (blue egg laying & crested).

The Gold Legbar was the first of the three varieties to be accepted into the standards book of the Poultry Club of Great Britain. It was started by crossing an imported Barred Plymouth Rock with English Brown Leghorns. The following year offspring from that breeding were breed to Danish Brown Leghorns. No new blood was brought in for a few years of the development until a high High Production Leghorn cockerel was crossed with the Gold Legbar line. Offspring from that cross were inbred the following year producing cream offspring. That was NOT the first time cream offspring had been seen at the Cambridge University Breeding Program. Cream had been discovered a few years earlier while studing blue egg genetics. The cream birds from that study were put into their own study that was completed by isolating the cream gene into English Brown Leghorns. Due to the origin of the Cream Gene these Cream English standard Brown Leghorns carried the blue egg gene. It was also a convention at the Cambridge Breeding Program to keep the crest of the original blue egg layers to mark blue egg laying birds. So the Englsih Cream Brown Leghorns laid Blue Eggs and had a Crest. The Cream Legbars from the High Production Leghorn were Cream laid white eggs and and were non-crested.

So...the first Cream Legbar were from the same origins and the Gold Legbars. The Cream Legbars were created from the same breeding lines as the Gold Legbars.

Further studies of the Cream Gene were conducted by crossing the Cream Legbars (non crested white egg laying) with the Cream Brown Leghorns (Blue egg laying, non-barred, crested). That study resulted in the Blue Egg Laying Crested Cream Legbars.

It should be noted that both the Cream Brown Leghorns and the Cream Legbars were started from the same flock of English Brown Leghorns that had been breed and the university for over two decades. It should be also be noted that both the Cream Brown Leghorns and the Legbars were breed to the English Leghorn Type. Type is what makes a breed. In the Legbar breed varieties are made by changing color, cresting, and egg color while keeping type the same.

I am not longer breeding Gold Legbars. I was using then to recreate Blue Egg Laying Legbars in the USA prior to the Greenfire Imports. The breeder I got my Gold Legbars from was doing the same thing. I switch to Cream Legbars when the iports became available. I now the breeder I got my Gold Legbars from used her hens and a Green Fire Cream Legbar Cockerel to start her Cream Legbar Line. I think she too got rid of all her Gold Legbars so there may not be any Gold Legbars left in the USA. The status of Gold Legbars in the UK is about the same as it is in the USA. About everyone working with the Legbar have blue egg layers. The Gold Legbar in the USA will NOT be a white Egg laying variety. The Proposed APA standards for both the White Legbar and the Gold Legbar are for Blue eggs.