creating a new breed (serama x nn) PLEASE HELP...

[crazy_egg]

so i crossed a serama male with a nn female and only got a cockerel. i want to make a new breed, naked neck seramas! how do i start? do i use the cockerel and breed it to female seramas and start the breeding process from there??/

 

[Mahonri]

That would be a good start. Of course in the next generation, only some will be NN so then you'll breed the daddy back to the daughters that are NN or a resultant NN cockeral to the resultant NN pullets... then you'll have to breed back to pure serama females again and keep the resultant NN's again. ... eventually you'll get NN seramas. I'll bet they'll be cute.

 

[crazy_egg]

@Mahonri. thank you very much. i understand now and cant wait to get a female for my cockerel!

 

[Ridgerunner]

It depends on what you want the final result to look like. The Naked Neck gene is dominant so as long as they have one copy of the right gene, they will show the naked neck.

The way I read your post, you want the final result to look like a Serama except to have the naked neck. I don't know the genetics behind the coloring and pattern of the Serama or especially which color and pattern NN you started with. What I'd suggest is that you keep breeding the offspring to Seramas until you get some chicks that look like you want the final result to be, but always choose for the naked neck. Once you start getting some chicks that look like you want them to, start breeding them to each other. Eventually they should breed true.

I don't know how many genes from the original NN you are going to have to replace with the Serama genes. That's going to depend some on the genetic make-up of your original NN. All you are after from the NN is the NN gene. I would not breed back to anything other than a Serama or an offspring of the mix. Just keep repeating breeding the offspring to a Serama or mixing the best offspring until you get what you want. You may get what you want fairly soon or it may take many generations.

 

[crazy_egg]

It depends on what you want the final result to look like. The Naked Neck gene is dominant so as long as they have one copy of the right gene, they will show the naked neck.
The way I read your post, you want the final result to look like a Serama except to have the naked neck. I don't know the genetics behind the coloring and pattern of the Serama or especially which color and pattern NN you started with. What I'd suggest is that you keep breeding the offspring to Seramas until you get some chicks that look like you want the final result to be, but always choose for the naked neck. Once you start getting some chicks that look like you want them to, start breeding them to each other. Eventually they should breed true.
I don't know how many genes from the original NN you are going to have to replace with the Serama genes. That's going to depend some on the genetic make-up of your original NN. All you are after from the NN is the NN gene. I would not breed back to anything other than a Serama or an offspring of the mix. Just keep repeating breeding the offspring to a Serama or mixing the best offspring until you get what you want. You may get what you want fairly soon or it may take many generations.

thank you for the info/help. it might take a decade or more to make them breed true but i am very determined to do so. this is my goal and cant wait!

 

[KickinAssFarms]

I’m posting in hopes to get an update on this project as it’s almost been a decade !!!!! I want to do the same thing !!!!

 

[tlcmurphy]

The OP hasn’t been on BYC in 12 years

 

[douglashawk]

I’m posting in hopes to get an update on this project as it’s almost been a decade !!!!! I want to do the same thing !!!!

I hatched out some BBS Seramas and some BBS bantam NN and raised them together. I sold the Serama and NN cockerels with the exception on one frizzle splash Serama. My blue NN pullet started laying and I noticed the Serama was breeding her. I took her 2nd clutch and all 9 eggs that hatched were BBS NN. I kept a trio. They are 14 weeks now. I am hatching eggs right now from that Serama x NN cockerel and 2 bantam NN. I have a Fb page called The Blue Feather Farm if you're interested. I don't sell unless local.

 

[douglashawk]

 

[douglashawk]