Creating a new breed

[S&SPoultryExchange]

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silkies arent really like a crest. I dont know how to explain it. I see what your saying but that wouldnt be a silkie. That would be more like a polish silkie cross. which I have some and they carry either one look or the other (quite ugly).

So you're saying that the whole "White/Black Crested so-and-so" is only a Polish thing? There isn't anyway to get it into the Silkies?

No im not saying there isnt any way. I just think it maybe difficult. Maybe it should be something you should try. Im going to have my hands full trying to get pulkens.

 

[S&SPoultryExchange]

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I have had a couple of blue silkies with a feather or two in their crests that are white. I have seen photos of young silkies with white crests, that do not carry into adult plumage. From what I have read, the genetics for different colour in the crest is not researched and documented, but is probably recessive. Personally, I think a wcb silkie would look grand.

I agree but I have had Silkie Polish cross's, have one now really. But they were always ugly, but there parents were beautiful.

 

[catfish/okie]

Some day I would like to take some Domineques and some Black Javas and see if I could come up with a Barred Plymoth Rock and make it run true. To find out what our founding fathers did to come up with a great breed.

 

[chicken_boy_Kurt]

I need to put my opinion in here.

I think there are already enough breeds and each breed has enough colors. Instead of creating new colors and breeds, why don't you help save existing breeds that are endangered? We have so many beautiful breeds to choose from, guys. Pick one and work on making it perfect. Don't try to make a new breed that ends up being a fad.

 

[cubalaya]

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why cant we do both? i chose the cubalaya as a very rare breed that should be more popular. the apa only recognizes 3 colors [bb red, black, and white] . there are more colors in the breed than this and in cuba. we have the brown reds and the red pyles and want to add the blue reds next year. we are working on a mixed breed project too. they will lay brown eggs, be good enough and big enough to eat, and breed true to color and type. of course i will sell the extras as mixed breeds until i perfect them. lots of breeds started by crossing 2 or 3 breeds and keeping the sports. some breeds are rare for a reason; they just dont work for the small farmer today.

 

[chicken_boy_Kurt]

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why cant we do both? i chose the cubalaya as a very rare breed that should be more popular. the apa only recognizes 3 colors [bb red, black, and white] . there are more colors in the breed than this and in cuba. we have the brown reds and the red pyles and want to add the blue reds next year. we are working on a mixed breed project too. they will lay brown eggs, be good enough and big enough to eat, and breed true to color and type. of course i will sell the extras as mixed breeds until i perfect them. lots of breeds started by crossing 2 or 3 breeds and keeping the sports. some breeds are rare for a reason; they just dont work for the small farmer today.

But, by trying to make new colors within a breed, you're diluting the bloodlines. This is especially bad for rare breeds. But even for fairly popular breeds, you could work on making some of the best representations of the breed in the country instead of trying to create a color that you don't even know would be popular.

 

[hinkjc]

Are they black? I'd like a roo

HappyMtn - yes, they are black mottled. I'll keep you posted. Looks like I have a bunch of excess roos growing out right now.

But, by trying to make new colors within a breed, you're diluting the bloodlines.

...you don't even know would be popular

CBK - not true. Some current breeds are actually so diluted they can't even breed naturally and are becoming a dying breed because of it.

It doesn't matter to me if the color is popular. I've never considered breeding as a popularity contest. All that matters is that I enjoy them and make them the best that I can.​

 

[chicken_boy_Kurt]

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HappyMtn - yes, they are black mottled. I'll keep you posted. Looks like I have a bunch of excess roos growing out right now.

But, by trying to make new colors within a breed, you're diluting the bloodlines.

...you don't even know would be popular

CBK - not true. Some current breeds are actually so diluted they can't even breed naturally and are becoming a dying breed because of it.

It doesn't matter to me if the color is popular. I've never considered breeding as a popularity contest. All that matters is that I enjoy them and make them the best that I can.​

Some, not all.

But if it's not popular, you won't have anywhere to place your culls. True, you can always cull them, but if you could sell them you could offset your costs.​

 

[imanerd]

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I would love "T-REX" chickens!!! You would think that the size alone might deter some predators.

 

[cubalaya]

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why cant we do both? i chose the cubalaya as a very rare breed that should be more popular. the apa only recognizes 3 colors [bb red, black, and white] . there are more colors in the breed than this and in cuba. we have the brown reds and the red pyles and want to add the blue reds next year. we are working on a mixed breed project too. they will lay brown eggs, be good enough and big enough to eat, and breed true to color and type. of course i will sell the extras as mixed breeds until i perfect them. lots of breeds started by crossing 2 or 3 breeds and keeping the sports. some breeds are rare for a reason; they just dont work for the small farmer today.

But, by trying to make new colors within a breed, you're diluting the bloodlines. This is especially bad for rare breeds. But even for fairly popular breeds, you could work on making some of the best representations of the breed in the country instead of trying to create a color that you don't even know would be popular.

THESE ARE NOT NEW COLORS IN THE CUBALAYA BREED they are just not recognized by the APA . the mixed breed project is not for the cubalaya but trying to get a large, brown egg laying chicken that will be good to eat and grows faster.