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The breda looks interesting. Have you had them before? Any idea how they do in the heat? Are they large fowl or bantam? Sorry, I like the feathered feet!!! lol

Yeah, I hear ya on the wild birds. I've got them like crazy too. I don't think the treadles will work here as my dogs are quite adept at working things like that. I'm thinking of those PVC feeders where hopefully they can't fit their muzzles in.

I like the idea of the jugs, but I can't lug them around. I'm working on integrating an auto-waterer that comes from the feed pipe for my sprinklers. Then I'll run pipe wherever I want a water station. Separate on/off valve for it plus a way to flush it out.

Yes, I had a Blue Breda before and she was a laying machine for 10+ consecutive months. The eggs were 1.75-oz -- not quite LG size. She's a lightweight breed at about 4 to 4.5-lbs. She and the Silkies were running around foraging the backyard on the hottest of days. One thing about Breda is that they are always looking for food whether it's at the feeding stations, foraging, or treats so keeping a varied and fortified diet always available with added vitamin supplementation is vital for high production breeds.

BLUE BREDA'S feathered feet as a pullet



FEATHERED FEET on Blue Breda (and our Silkies) wear down when outside foraging and dust-bathing


Finding a method to feed chickens where the wild birds aren't mooching is difficult. I choose not to have a dog while i have backyard chickens so the treadle feeder works for us. I used to get dozens and dozens of birds flocking into the yard all day long when I had open feeders but once we went to treadles the populations are down to 4 or 5 visiting sparrows at a time and they're more interested in my raised garden bed spiders than the rest of the yard. We don't water the yard because of a State-declared drought and the wild birds can't get to the nipple valve waterers. I like our 2-gallon Brite Tap Rubbermaid jugs because I don't fill them with more than a gallon with only 3 chickens right now and makes it easy to carry into the house when I clean them out. I can go up to 2 weeks without cleaning a jug and then use a diluted bleach solution to clean the jug and Brite Tap and rinse well. I've never had a mold issue -- keeping the jugs in shade all day helps tremendously and adding ice cubes is great on hot days. Nipple valve waterers are so much easier than having to fill and re-fill filthy poopy bowls of chicken water 3 and 4x a day. Our tap water is so harsh and heavily mineralized that crust develops quickly on taps and spigots so it's not an option for us to use tap water as drinking water for animals or humans. We only use tap water for bathing or washing dishes. For cooking or drinking water we get filtered bottled water and keep about 10@ 5-gallon jugs of filtered drinking water on hand. Because the filtered water stays clean in the nipple valve jugs we don't have a waste of filtered water like we did when we had open bowl water. It's just something that has finally worked for our situation. As someone once told me -- we need to find what works best for ourselves since we don't all have the same circumstances.
 
[COLOR=0000CD]Yes, I had a Blue Breda before and she was a laying machine for 10+ consecutive months. The eggs were 1.75-oz -- not quite LG size. She's a lightweight breed at about 4 to 4.5-lbs. She and the Silkies were running around foraging the backyard on the hottest of days. One thing about Breda is that they are always looking for food whether it's at the feeding stations, foraging, or treats so keeping a varied and fortified diet always available with added vitamin supplementation is vital for high production breeds.[/COLOR] [COLOR=0000CD]BLUE BREDA'S feathered feet as a pullet[/COLOR] [COLOR=0000CD]FEATHERED FEET on Blue Breda (and our Silkies) wear down when outside foraging and dust-bathing[/COLOR] [COLOR=0000CD]Finding a method to feed chickens where the wild birds aren't mooching is difficult. I choose not to have a dog while i have backyard chickens so the treadle feeder works for us. I used to get dozens and dozens of birds flocking into the yard all day long when I had open feeders but once we went to treadles the populations are down to 4 or 5 visiting sparrows at a time and they're more interested in my raised garden bed spiders than the rest of the yard. We don't water the yard because of a State-declared drought and the wild birds can't get to the nipple valve waterers. I like our 2-gallon Brite Tap Rubbermaid jugs because I don't fill them with more than a gallon with only 3 chickens right now and makes it easy to carry into the house when I clean them out. I can go up to 2 weeks without cleaning a jug and then use a diluted bleach solution to clean the jug and Brite Tap and rinse well. I've never had a mold issue -- keeping the jugs in shade all day helps tremendously and adding ice cubes is great on hot days. Nipple valve waterers are so much easier than having to fill and re-fill filthy poopy bowls of chicken water 3 and 4x a day. Our tap water is so harsh and heavily mineralized that crust develops quickly on taps and spigots so it's not an option for us to use tap water as drinking water for animals or humans. We only use tap water for bathing or washing dishes. For cooking or drinking water we get filtered bottled water and keep about 10@ 5-gallon jugs of filtered drinking water on hand. Because the filtered water stays clean in the nipple valve jugs we don't have a waste of filtered water like we did when we had open bowl water. It's just something that has finally worked for our situation. As someone once told me -- we need to find what works best for ourselves since we don't all have the same circumstances.[/COLOR]
True. We've hard water, but house filter is out of budget. I don't notice too fast or breed of build up from the stuff. Lugging water home would break me. 2 of my dogs are small & they're the main culprits. They're on a diet & insist they're starving. Lol my Dane, he figures stuff out since he's my service dog. I'll have to look into the Breda next time I'm up for chicks. For now, hands are full. I'm trying very hard to ignore chicken math!
 
True. We've hard water, but house filter is out of budget. I don't notice too fast or breed of build up from the stuff. Lugging water home would break me. 2 of my dogs are small & they're the main culprits. They're on a diet & insist they're starving. Lol my Dane, he figures stuff out since he's my service dog.

I'll have to look into the Breda next time I'm up for chicks. For now, hands are full. I'm trying very hard to ignore chicken math!

Breda are not available in hatcheries so far. Only private breeders for the moment which means I have to pay $$ for shipping which really drives up the cost and my favorite Breda contacts don't ship baby chicks which is ok for me since I order older 3 to 4-mo-old juveniles one at a time as I need them. I love these Bredas so much because they are non-combative with other docile breeds and easy on the feed bill for the amount of eggs they give back -- not LG eggs but around 1.75-oz each which is enough for two of us in the household. But being a productive bird they require high quality feed and extra vitamin supplementation. I was looking into the Polish, Crevecoeurs, and Sultans as docile-temperament white-egg layers when someone suggested the Breda and I've been hooked on them ever since. Like rare Crevies, the rare Breda need diverse breeding to improve hardiness but so far I'm impressed with the egg-laying which is a lot higher production then Crevies, Polish, or Sultan. Docile, outgoing, exploring/curious, unafraid, pesty-friendly chickens are what I like and not the jumpy skittery standoffish nature of breeds like Leghorns, Marans, or Easter Eggers (I love these breeds for other reasons but they aren't innately as tame -- they are not particularly fond of human touch/handling and need a lot more work to allow you to make cuddly pets out of them IMO). The Breda can spook suddenly and just as suddenly settle down whereas breeds like Leghorns or Easter Eggers will keep on running sometimes until they bump into something that stops them LOL! Our Silkies and Bredas have been our best mix of docile breeds and next Spring I want Dominique. Doms are smaller than Barred Rocks and just a bit less assertive (I've had both nice birds before but prefer the smaller outgoing, unafraid, curious, human-pesty Doms). But who knows? I might go with another Breda variety again since there are about 5 different colors/patterns to choose from -- Black/Blue/Splash (B/B/S), Black-&-White Mottled, and Blue-&-White Mottled. In Europe they also come in solid White.

Bringing home 5-gallon jugs of filtered water is not easy. There are 3-gallon sizes also but then we have to go to the water filter station too often. We tried an in-house filtering system but it didn't last long because our water is just too harsh and the filtering units break down. 5 yrs ago we had to re-plumb the whole house with copper water pipes and who knows how long that will last? It's the pits living in SoCal!!!!

So, you have a Great Dane as a service dog?
 
[COLOR=0000CD]Breda are not available in hatcheries so far.  Only private breeders for the moment which means I have to pay $$ for shipping which really drives up the cost and my favorite Breda contacts don't ship baby chicks which is ok for me since I order older 3 to 4-mo-old juveniles one at a time as I need them.  I love these Bredas so much because they are non-combative with other docile breeds and easy on the feed bill for the amount of eggs they give back -- not LG eggs but around 1.75-oz each which is enough for two of us in the household.  But being a productive bird they require high quality feed and extra vitamin supplementation.  I was looking into the Polish, Crevecoeurs, and Sultans as docile-temperament white-egg layers when someone suggested the Breda and I've been hooked on them ever since.  Like rare Crevies, the rare Breda need diverse breeding to improve hardiness but so far I'm impressed with the egg-laying which is a lot higher production then Crevies, Polish, or Sultan.  Docile, outgoing, exploring/curious, unafraid, pesty-friendly chickens are what I like and not the jumpy skittery standoffish nature of breeds like Leghorns, Marans, or Easter Eggers (I love these breeds for other reasons but they aren't innately as tame -- they are not particularly fond of human touch/handling and need a lot more work to allow you to make cuddly pets out of them IMO).  The Breda can spook suddenly and just as suddenly settle down whereas breeds like Leghorns or Easter Eggers will keep on running sometimes until they bump into something that stops them LOL!  Our Silkies and Bredas have been our best mix of docile breeds and next Spring I want Dominique.  Doms are smaller than Barred Rocks and just a bit less assertive (I've had both nice birds before but prefer the smaller outgoing, unafraid, curious, human-pesty Doms).  But who knows?  I might go with another Breda variety again since there are about 5 different colors/patterns to choose from -- Black/Blue/Splash (B/B/S), Black-&-White Mottled, and Blue-&-White Mottled.  In Europe they also come in solid White.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000CD]Bringing home 5-gallon jugs of filtered water is not easy.  There are 3-gallon sizes also but then we have to go to the water filter station too often.  We tried an in-house filtering system but it didn't last long because our water is just too harsh and the filtering units break down.  5 yrs ago we had to re-plumb the whole house with copper water pipes and who knows how long that will last?  It's the pits living in SoCal!!!![/COLOR]

[COLOR=0000CD]So, you have a Great Dane as a service dog?[/COLOR]


Keep that in mind about the Breda.

Yeah, the big goober. Lol he's awesome, but starting to retire. I'm trying to work out dog #4 versus see how I do without. My chiweenie can do some of the tasks but she's not as strong on alerts. Largely due to training-working. She's not really hope for long days out, tires to easy.

Danes are easy. They really need a good daily walk for exercise, but mostly they like to be with you. They're strong which is awesome for his helping.
 
Keep that in mind about the Breda.

Yeah, the big goober. Lol he's awesome, but starting to retire. I'm trying to work out dog #4 versus see how I do without. My chiweenie can do some of the tasks but she's not as strong on alerts. Largely due to training-working. She's not really hope for long days out, tires to easy.

Danes are easy. They really need a good daily walk for exercise, but mostly they like to be with you. They're strong which is awesome for his helping.

There are some Breda breeders that will ship hatching eggs or ship chicks but I found them expensive for my budget. I went with ordering older juveniles so I don't have to hassle with an incubator or a brooder and I only get one juvenile at a time -- too much $$ for more than that for me. Shipping costs is where it hurts. For ourselves we count the expense worthwhile because we like the Breda so much. I have a Calif breeder that I get my juveniles from.

My SIL really likes big dogs and is looking into Great Danes on his list. He likes to get rescue animals so it will be fun to see what he settles for. Where he lives next to a nature preserve it is best to have large dog breeds -- house cats and small dog breeds are out of the question as many neighborhood pets have sadly disappeared because of Lynx, Bobcats, Coyotes, etc, lurking in the woods.
 
There are some Breda breeders that will ship hatching eggs or ship chicks but I found them expensive for my budget. I went with ordering older juveniles so I don't have to hassle with an incubator or a brooder and I only get one juvenile at a time -- too much $$ for more than that for me. Shipping costs is where it hurts. For ourselves we count the expense worthwhile because we like the Breda so much. I have a Calif breeder that I get my juveniles from. My SIL really likes big dogs and is looking into Great Danes on his list. He likes to get rescue animals so it will be fun to see what he settles for. Where he lives next to a nature preserve it is best to have large dog breeds -- house cats and small dog breeds are out of the question as many neighborhood pets have sadly disappeared because of Lynx, Bobcats, Coyotes, etc, lurking in the woods.
They're a good breed. Coyotes are trouble for any dog really. There are some good Dane rescues around too. Unfortunately, the bigger the dough the bigger the vet bill, etc can be. Like you said for the Breda, it's worth it.
 
Some of my Crevecoeurs (and a couple La Fleche) today.

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