Crime: Why does anyone even bother?

[elizabethbinary]

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I have welcomed ex-cons into my home. I have helped them reform. So if you want to say my compassion is all put up just for show, you can close that topic.

As for the rest of it - I said it before and I'll say it again. 1. I said increase in crime, not CAUSEof crime and 2. I specifically said, repeatedly, I was not discussing murderers at this time - but I greatly don't think you'd like my opinion on that either.

I like how you don't think I have problems with the law or crime. I do have problems with crime. I also got to actually know some criminals. Just so, for a moment, I can see it from THEIR side. I'm not even asking you to change your opinion! I'm asking you to stop for a moment and put yourself in their shoes for just a moment and think what it's like for A MOMENT to be them. To feel what they feel. If you understand the criminal, you can make efforts to stop the crime. Before it happens.

Well said. Until we make greater efforts to find what encourages crime, and make efforts to address these problems (poverty, poor education, social and ethnic issues) we will continue to have these problems.

Man I hate when people show me up in one sentence something that took me 5 posts to say!

(Thank you!!) That's exactly what I meant.

 

[redhen]

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I disagree. You can tell a lot about the human condition by the way they treat their lowest common denominator. It's why I got into prison health - the 'comforts of home' is a laughable comment. Prison isn't terribly challenging (and prisoners say this, just keep your nose clean) but it isn't particularly home-like either. A lot of the things that get taken away from prisons (like television) actually CAUSE more crime because the criminals become bored and destructive, like children. The reason I took a particulart interest in prison diets is because I found they were feeding prisoners things that were proven to cause an increase in crime rate.

All these things people want to take away from criminals (some who have done MINOR crimes) are the things that give them a higher chance of reformation. Unless we want to shut them away for every day and pay 200k a year in taxes each, we're going to have to work on reformation. Created bored obese criminals and putting them in a room to learn off each other for five years and then sending them into the world where nobody will give the a job because of their record... will only cause more crime. We can agree on that much, I'm sure.

Let me be frank-that sounds like a bunch of fertilizer. Their diet causes an increase in crime? No, the fact that they are narcissistic idiots is what causes them to commit crimes. I thought someone in an earlier post said they were committing crime in order to get something to eat???? Now they're committing crime BECAUSE they were GIVEN something to eat???? Interesting...
Prison isn't terribly challenging? That's too bad, they had an opportunity to be challenged by getting an education and availing themselves of the countless chances to go to college. Did they? No, they're lazy and would rather steal from someone that did just that.
Those of you that have sympathy for these jackwagons might have a TOTALLY different perspective on this whole thing had some convict who jumped bail did a drive by on your house because you loaned his girlfriend's husband money to get a divorce-happened to me and had he not been such a coward and run, he'd have gotten a big surprise from me and wouldn't be sitting in prison right now. I don't feel sorry for his worthless...self. He could have easily killed me or my husband.
There is a place in the dictionary where you can find sympathy, but I won't be real descriptive as to where it is...not appropriate for this site.
If you don't have a problem with criminals and you want them treated so beautifully by society, by all means, post your address on the internet welcoming them into your home-maybe it'll save one of us that DOES have a problem with them and no sympathy for them from being robbed, carjacked or worse.

Woot! I 100% agree! people wouldnt be so quick to baby these creeps if THEY had been a victim of crime..
Like my brother was,.he WAS actually shot in the back from a drive-by shooting and he almost died....bullet went through his house wall AND through his couch..he was sitting on his couch watching t.v., looked up at my SIL and just said, i think, i've been shot, with a look of utter shock and terror on his face...
I remember driving to the hospital with my mother... they had to life flight him to another bigger hospital... she was just huddled on the floor of the car sobbing her heart out... her only boy might be dead before she got to see him again...
He STILL has a bullet in him to this day... it was too close to a main artery or something..so they couldnt risk taking the bullet out of him...
Do you EVEN think that scum bag cares that he almost destroyed a family and crushed a mother? Come on now... Think real hard..

No.. if your husband was shot in the back by some coward.. or you were raped and tortured by one... Or maybe YOUR child will be killed by one of these people,...then you come tell me how we should look at it "from their side"

Just my opinion, of course. I dont begrudge anyone theirs either...

 

[redhen]

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Yep...

 

[Moabite]

I'm starting to resent some of these comments, I mean having a few illegal chickens is fun. I would stop doing it if I thought it was hurting someone.

 

[elizabethbinary]

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Let me be frank-that sounds like a bunch of fertilizer. Their diet causes an increase in crime? No, the fact that they are narcissistic idiots is what causes them to commit crimes. I thought someone in an earlier post said they were committing crime in order to get something to eat???? Now they're committing crime BECAUSE they were GIVEN something to eat???? Interesting...
Prison isn't terribly challenging? That's too bad, they had an opportunity to be challenged by getting an education and availing themselves of the countless chances to go to college. Did they? No, they're lazy and would rather steal from someone that did just that.
Those of you that have sympathy for these jackwagons might have a TOTALLY different perspective on this whole thing had some convict who jumped bail did a drive by on your house because you loaned his girlfriend's husband money to get a divorce-happened to me and had he not been such a coward and run, he'd have gotten a big surprise from me and wouldn't be sitting in prison right now. I don't feel sorry for his worthless...self. He could have easily killed me or my husband.
There is a place in the dictionary where you can find sympathy, but I won't be real descriptive as to where it is...not appropriate for this site.
If you don't have a problem with criminals and you want them treated so beautifully by society, by all means, post your address on the internet welcoming them into your home-maybe it'll save one of us that DOES have a problem with them and no sympathy for them from being robbed, carjacked or worse.

Woot! I 100% agree! people wouldnt be so quick to baby these creeps if THEY had been a victim of crime..
Like my brother was,.he WAS actually shot in the back from a drive-by shooting and he almost died....bullet went through his house wall AND through his couch..he was sitting on his couch watching t.v., looked up at my SIL and just said, i think, i've been shot, with a look of utter shock and terror on his face...
I remember driving to the hospital with my mother... they had to life flight him to another bigger hospital... she was just huddled on the floor of the car sobbing her heart out... her only boy might be dead before she got to see him again...
He STILL has a bullet in him to this day... it was too close to a main artery or something..so they couldnt risk taking the bullet out of him...
Do you EVEN think that scum bag cares that he almost destroyed a family and crushed a mother? Come on now... Think real hard..

No.. if your husband was shot in the back by some coward.. or you were raped and tortured by one... Or maybe YOUR child will be killed by one of these people,...then you come tell me how we should look at it "from their side"

Just my opinion, of course. I dont begrudge anyone theirs either...

Please do not assume I have not been a victim of crime.

 

[HHandbasket]

Yes, I admit to being a criminal chickeneer. Please don't turn me in. And yes, that is me in my avatar.

 

[elizabethbinary]

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Already in stripes!!!!

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Crime is sometimes seen as a line in the sand. Your ether on one side of the line or the other. Laws are wrote with this line in mind. But in reality laws are a way to dictate morals. But morals are not black an white. There are thousands of lines. We all have to chose which lines we will cross an which ones we wont. An the lines you will an wont cross may not be the same today as tomorrow. Even the books that many use to dictate there morals do not see them as black an white. Thou shall not steal is actually explained out that taking food to survive is ok but taking more than you need to survive is not. Thou shall not kill is not that black an white ether.


I speed every now an then. I have friends that like there pot. But I will turn someone in for selling meths. I know the things I will do without thinking twice, law or not. What I cant tell you is what I wont do. Why? Because there is no law that I can think of that I know for a fact there is no situation that could happen that would get me to cross that line.

As for people saying they would never steal food, I say that's only because you have never been hungry enough to.

 

[gritsar]

Miz Red, Have I told you today how much I love you?

 

[gritsar]

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Nope, sorry. I lived for two weeks at a time on a dozen eggs, a loaf of bread and a bag of apples and I didn't steal. Maybe if I didn't have those apples I would have been hungry enough?