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I wonder if Scott's statement about brassiness could be what is going on with Delawares? I guess that is a bit off the subject at hand.
I don't think Fred will throw us out of class for getting off topic.... (go easy on us professor)

If your Dels are showing brassiness in the hackles, shoulders, saddles then it is probably the same issue. Apparently, the are "inhibitors" that keep brassiness from expressing itself in silver columbian based birds. It seems that it requires 2 copies of Aph~I to suppress this in the males and 1 copy in females.

In my case, I was advised that the "Old Heritage Lines" of Barred Rocks were carriers of 2 copies of the inhibitor Aph~I and that is what I used to cross into my line. I was also told that a White Leghorn also carries the inhibitor if that breed is more available to you.

Those articles in Exhibition Poultry explain it in a lot more detail, but hey, I'm a "genetics neophyte"....gotta boil it down to laymans terms
 
Another odd thing about this strain of black Hamburgs is: Some of the females combs change from spring/summer to Fall. part of the year the comb looks perfect and then it.... for a better word "melts" and becomes this flat glob that is very unattractive. It starts to look more like a bad Wyndotte comb. I have never seen a comb change back and forth like that.

Has anyone seen this before?

Walt

I may be mistaken, and if I'm not it would still be a long shot, but isn't this a trait of the Red Jungle fowl? Wouldn't be weird if the strain had touched into some ancient through back? If I'm not mistaken, post breeding season, the combs on the Red Jungle Fowl shrivel up, and cocks go into an eclipse plumage.
 
My Hamburgs came from Jim LaGendre of OR. Wonderful guy and I've been pleased with his birds. What I see his birds are the Spangles are not "smutty" or smeared looking on tails. That was a difficult trait to breed out. He did talk about one of the Canadian import he had, and only had them a short time, and was not pleased with them.
Do you now if Jim has Golden Spangled by chance?
 
I may be mistaken, and if I'm not it would still be a long shot, but isn't this a trait of the Red Jungle fowl? Wouldn't be weird if the strain had touched into some ancient through back? If I'm not mistaken, post breeding season, the combs on the Red Jungle Fowl shrivel up, and cocks go into an eclipse plumage.
My AGs here do something similar they look like "hades in a hand basket" this time of the year this could be a self preservation thing from the hot heat of summer reckon/maybe"? not too thrifty (as a game should be/high strung)shrivled up, dark waxy combs and a very unsightly molt, too.

Jeff
 
Remember please, this is an educational thread, not a chit chat thread, and we ask everyone to always be respectful of the class and remain focused. Discussion of the breed's finer points, the SOP, and breeding challenges are highly encouraged.

The next Continental breed, the Faverolles. Seems like the "jumping the gun" posts point to some genuine interest. LOL

Photos posted should be accompanied by discussion and questions.


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Pamela
Little Creek Farms


great breed I found a good source for bantams and working on large fowl. Make great mothers some strains.

Edit: I forgot to give credit to these excellent pair of birds to Pamela of Little Creek Farms. I love their type and color and I am sure if you can get some of her stock you will be very happy.
That's why I posted the pictures these are true to breed. Also not a lot of people who raise this breed they need more who want to support and preserve them. bob
 
I am a new breeder of Faverolles. I finished hatching my second generation of birds this year. I started with many hatching eggs from good breeders. I hope to purchase more pullets from the same line most of my birds came from. This is my first rooster I used. I no longer have him.


I picked him because to me he had nice type. He was very small was his problem. All his son were small. I have one nice pullet from him. She is lacking in size also.


This is my current rooster. He is huge and I am pretty proud of him. I would love some critique on him. He is just over a year old in these photos. It seems to me that his neck is too long or his stance is to upright. I hope I am saying this right. I really like his wing carriage. A vast improvement of his father. So far he seems to have passed it on to all the cockerels I have hatched this year.


I have fallen in love with the Faverolles. They are very docile and easy to handle. I have tried a few breeds and the Faverolles have been my best meat bird so far. You just have to be patient. I hope to bring my first birds to a show at the end of the year. I have so much to learn.
 
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