d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

This is my first year with them and all my hens are young, less than a year. When they first started laying, most of them layed about 6 eggs and then went to sittin and fussin but it didn't last too long. Now I have a couple that will lay a while then set a while. Art Cosner has a bunch, he doesn't use an incubator anymore, just lets them do theyre thing and he says they are real good mothers.

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should of read on first on the ginger. haha

yes on d'anvers if you dont pull the eggs, the are hell on wheels as broodys moms. Even with pulling eggs, they go threw cycles. They will lay hard and heavy for 3-4 weeks, then attempt to brood an empty nest or just slack up in laying. This usually last about 2 weeks, then they are back at it if you dont leave any eggs for them. If you leave them and they go full on broody they stop for a month or so even long of course if you let her raise them.

Now on to the ginger red cock. If you hatched him, this is easy, was he tan and grey? if not he's not a true ginger red d'anver. I think I MAY have a few of the first ones hatching this weekend, will try to snap a few pics ( but you know how I am about that) and show what I'm talking about. It's a 100% unique chick color, no mistaking it.. if not colored like this and had a chipmunk color, then he's a mahogany based buff columbian, they are very similar as adults, but 100% different as chicks. Now knowing that he had a quail mom, I'm betting columbian as quail is a columbian based pattern, he's just VERY dark for one

here's a pic comparison of the two as adults, an F1 buff and a ginger, can you tell which is which, there's differences, but you about have to have them side by side

 
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I give! I see what I think is a little difference in the wing triangle and the red on the right one is darker. But I don't know which is which. Actually I know the one on the right is the ginger red (because I have pretty much memorized the pictures on your website) but I don't know why.
 
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Wow, those two colors are almost identical! That is so funny that two totally differently bred chickens, and obviously different chick pattern can look nearly the exact same color! Why is that? I mean whats the point of having both colors if they look the same? Lets see...
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The top picture im assuming is the columbian... and the bottom is the Ginger red. Very slight differences and if I didnt see both pictures I would never be able to tell at all... actually... had no one said anything I would always have assumed it was Ginger... I thought that when I looked at your rooster JJ. I've been doing my color homework *Thanks JJ*

Strange! And cool :) I love all this!

Beautiful birds either way
 
Just popping in real quick to say "HI" Sunday I will official be done with this college degree (like I needed another one) and then I shall be back to more full-time harrassment of JJ *smirk* because I know he has missed my abuse.


Cyn, I will leave My Little Love in GA so Tom does not get upset but KNOW THIS WOMAN....he shall be spoiled rotten for the duration of my visit and you shall suffer the consequences once I am gone again.
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I already have the pancake mix set out and I shall make muffins before I leave Thursday so the Suedenator and My Little Love have baked goodies during my visit. Then again...now that my black hair has been lightened, he may flog me too, although he likes it when I talk to him on the phone. hahahahaha

My feed bill will most certainly will increase....having these 41 new recruits here has increased it tremendously already. hahahahaha Check em out JJ the youngest 31 were just practicing their sparring and camoflauge drills in the grass, a daily training event, next week they start more advanced stuffs. *smirk*


Not bad for week olds...they are learning fast BEWARE mini devil nuggets of Virginia; Kentucky's Hairy Legged Horde is preparing for infiltration and conquering! muahahahahahahaha


Gotta run now and make sure the recruits are sleeping and not sneaking out on night training ops.
 
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Hey all. Can't sleep. I have a new syndrome im labeling called "New Hatchers Syndrome" lol... Worried about the right way to incubate the eggs im getting.

So I've been reading and reading about incubation and air cells etc. Here are my questions for you seasoned hatchers.

When I get my eggs, how long should I let them rest before putting them into the bator? I was reading about detatched air cells on shipped eggs so it makes me worry more!

I will have the bator set to 100 Degrees and 54% Humidity. Should I not have the turner on for awhile if the air cells are detatched or messed up? This was in the article here on BYC. Or should I not worry and just go ahead and set them to turn as normal?

When do you start lockdown? And what changes do I make when that happens? Can someone explain lockdown or link me an article?

Thanks everyone
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Hey all. Can't sleep. I have a new syndrome im labeling called "New Hatchers Syndrome" lol... Worried about the right way to incubate the eggs im getting.

So I've been reading and reading about incubation and air cells etc. Here are my questions for you seasoned hatchers.

When I get my eggs, how long should I let them rest before putting them into the bator? I was reading about detatched air cells on shipped eggs so it makes me worry more!

I will have the bator set to 100 Degrees and 54% Humidity. Should I not have the turner on for awhile if the air cells are detatched or messed up? This was in the article here on BYC. Or should I not worry and just go ahead and set them to turn as normal?

When do you start lockdown? And what changes do I make when that happens? Can someone explain lockdown or link me an article?

Thanks everyone
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This is what Speckledhen taught me...

Before they arrive, turn on your incabot and let it reach temp...monitor temperature and humidity levels for changes over a day or so if you can....make any adjustments needed

1. When eggs arrive, gently unpack and unwrap them if needed, place pointy end down in an egg carton and let rest a few hours I let them sit for 6 - 8 hours and candle them looking for egg cell disruption.

2. Temps optimum is 99.5 or 99.6 do not let it settle at any temp above 100 degrees or below 99 degrees....humidity should run 35% - 50% not higher.

3. Put eggs in turner pointy end down, close bator, monitor for temps and humidty. Leave for 18 days, add water if needed to raise humidity, 1 tsp at a time

4. Lockdown is day 18,remove eggs from turner and lay on their sides in bator, raise humidity to 55%-70% optimum being about 65% - 70%, remove plug from incubator top usually a red plastic one. Do not open bator unnecessarily during lockdown and expect humidity to raise once pipping starts....hatch day is day 21....they can take up to 24 hours to hatch once egg pips....I recandle and check them late on day 21 or early day 22 if no pips.

If you set them in the turner before noon...count that day as Day 1 if after noon...count the next day as Day 1



Lockdown is the last three days of incubation when higher humidity is required ....you want to leave them alone as much as possibly during this time because the babies will be absorbing the remaining yolk and preparing the hatch. They will go through very active stages and then 'sleeping' stages. You will hear tapping or peeping during this time but not always, it varies from hatch to hatch. Leave them in the bator until they have fully dried, they can safely stay in there up to 24 hours as a rule of thumb. Higher humidity keeps the internal membrane surrounding them from drying out and shrink wrapping while the baby is trying to get out of the egg.

Unexpected things can happen during this time so be ready to post qiuestions.... Usually it is good NOT to help them as it can be better for the little one to expire on its own than to be helped out and it not be thriving and die anyway...t takes some time for them to get their feet under them and they will lay there and sleep after hatching others may be very active...just give them time and think of them as anewborn baby really...in many aspects they react the same. Good luck!
 
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