d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Aubrey, how about a critique of this cockerel.





He has some light barring in his tail, How big of a deal is that?

all I see so far JJ is the beard looks to be thin, but a good hen will fix that easy. His mottling looks a little light, but he's a cockerel so that's to be expected. They usually dont get it good til after their 1st adult molt. You want to see that good line of white dots on the wing bow, and all the feathers, especially the tail, tipped in white, but I'm thinking by this time next year, he'll have all that. Comb and body shape look great to me. I like to see a good steeper V in the neck to tail area, but it's hard to catch that in a pick. His tail angle looks pretty good. I know how they can be hard to get a good posture shot on. Like the head a little more back, which it may well be when he's not being photoed.

all in all, looks good, just a thin beard, bet he'll make you a good one in the long run.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

gone see if I can go threw and comment on each pic if it'll let me. Got most of it right, I do see a little difference in some. I'm wondering also if your porcelains didnt turn out to be some of those lavender buff columbians. It's hard to tell in the pics. Do they have any white mottling to them? If so, even just a little they are, if not they are isabela (lavender) columbians.

let's see if this will work

Breeding pairs.....Advice

Buff Columbian (yes does look to be out of the buff columbians)


Not sure what the front one is...thinking Buff Columbian (?)

( yes front pullet is one of the buffs with a little stipling on her back, that clears up and goes away with more breeding and she'll end up making clean backed chicks in the long run, they get that from the bb red that was used to make them) Not seeing mottling on the lavender??)


one of two Porcelain pullets above with Porcelain cockerel..running while free-ranging

( again, he looks clean too, check for mottling and see if he has any, hard to tell on young ones)



Mille Fleurs...there are three cockerels..two shown here..far right bottom and first d'Anver on the left top roost

(yep milles and looks like the buff columbians)


and one pullet on the bottom roost bar



Not sure what the middle one or the one on the right ...may be a Ginger and the one on the right may be a lighter version (?)

( mille, mille, columbian. The middle ones looks to have small white dots, may just be the light. If he has a few dots, he's mille)



As for the girls...Left pullet..Ginger (?) and the one on the right could be Buff Columbian

(got them right, ginger and buff columbian. That ginger's a male though. See the pointed hackle feathers, also a ginger hen looks just like the buff pullets, they are have the reddish tan body with the black back lacing)


Same girl on the right..picture of her back...Is this Columbian or something else?


( Yes she's columbian, again just has a dirty back, that needs cleaning up to a solid buff back, in the end you just want a little black in the hackle, then the wing tips and tail tips)


I do have a black pullet and LilGuy, the black cockerel

Don't think I ended up with any BB Reds...Cockerels or pullets

I do have some OEGB pullets that might be used in breeding with the d'Anvers, but don't know for sure which cockerel would be best.

Buff Columbian in the first picture...far left top roost
An Opal in the 5th picture to the right of the Porcelain
A White pullet...not shown...much smaller although the same age.
Silver Blue

As for breeding, aside from the gingers you can breed all those together and be fine. Buff columbian is what milles are based on, all the birds other than the gingers are that. Add mottling you got mille, add lavender to that you have porcelain. Those are F2 ( second generation columbians) so a few of them will have mottling in them still, so if bred to mille or porcelain you can get more of both.
Same on the lavender ones, they will carry mottling too so you can breed those to the buffs or milles and continue either way you want to go.

On the ginger boys, I'd put them with the buff hens with the most black on the back and the darkest breast, that way you can continue on with those too also.

No I didnt see any bb reds in the pics right off, but I could have swore I saw one in earlier pics. Maybe not. Look at the pullest breast closely, if you see a pinkish "salmon" tint, then they are bb red, they are all really close on the females color. The buff columbians have duckwing back grounds, so you could take one of those back to old english bb's and work your way back on them. Several should be bb red right off the bat, from there just back breed to get the type right.

If you wanted to make solid lavenders, you could breed those blacks to the porcelains you have, all off spring would be black and split for lavender and mottled. Breed those together and you'll get blacks, lavender, mottled, lavender mottled, etc. If they are infact porcelains and not lavender columbians, you will get the mottled stuff quicker.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

oh, and by the way, I'm headed off shore again this week end...haha I'll be the one gone from the computer again now looks like. Wont stay gone this time though, will be back Sunday..

 

[NanaKat]

oh, and by the way, I'm headed off shore again this week end...haha I'll be the one gone from the computer again now looks like. Wont stay gone this time though, will be back Sunday..

Catch some big ones!

 

[4hchickmama]

Look what I woke up to find this morning!!!



Number Seven decided to hatch! My first hatched chick!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Look what I woke up to find this morning!!!



Number Seven decided to hatch! My first hatched chick!

congrats...



and thank NANA, plan on it should be a beautiful weekend out there if the forecast holds

 

[4hchickmama]

I have two more now and waiting on the 4th to hatch. A small pip hole, but nothing else yet. I'm looking at my chicks and I have ZERO idea what color they are...lol.

These are the two that hatched earlier:

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

haha, that's funny, I was about to ask you what color those were supposed to be. Hard to tell til they fluff up. But they kinda looks like a blue and a splash quail right now. blue being the darker one.

 

[4hchickmama]

haha, that's funny, I was about to ask you what color those were supposed to be. Hard to tell til they fluff up. But they kinda looks like a blue and a splash quail right now. blue being the darker one.

They came out of a mixed pen with Blacks, lavenders, white, porcelain, and blue...soooo who knows! My first batch ever. All four are out now. I will get some more fluffed up pics tomorrow.

 

[4hchickmama]

Okay I was able to snap some pics today....but I am apparently a very crummy photographer. Sorry if there are a lot. I'm a proud new "mama" and I was hoping to get some input on what their colors might be. They are being referred to by their egg numbers still...so they have number names.

Group shot, Left to right, #7, #10, #9, #6:


#9





#10






#6






#7





#7 is the most puzzling to me. She has silvery/white feathers, but has a few dark feathers on her neck. Not super dark, but just a slightly darker color than the rest of her body. I *think* #9 is a Lavender...the other two, I dunno. Not a clue. #6 has a yellowy underbelly.

Thank you to anyone who gives input! My daughters wanted to do hatching eggs this year and this was their first ever hatch. They were able to watch 2 out of the 4 hatch and it has been so exciting for them.