d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

[Backwoods Bntms]

Kris I bet that's a dominate white porcelain then . A clear pic would be nice to see of it. I'd you have a mate I'd breed them for that color. will be awesome . They will have no lavender color all that will be white. But they are still lavender under the white. So you can breed to porcelain and get back half of each

Kris, here is the answer to your question. Aubrey already answered it.

 

[warmheart]

Laseterlass, what adorable babies strolling through the livingroom!

What a great pic!

Kris, I wish I could come over and spoil your chicks for you. This is the neatest breed! Is that a goldneck d'Anver or d'Uccle in your avatar, may I ask?

For Aubrey, JJ, or anyone who's in-the-know, I've got two questions:

1. Aubrey mentioned that a mille fleur is a mottled variety of buff columbian. That got me thinking:

I've got only 2 chicks with black speckles on them, but the other 4 honestly kinda just look buff columbian. Will those eventually get black (and white) speckles/spangles/mottles too, and turn out to be mille fleur as they mature? I'll love them either way, I'm just curious!

2. During playtime in the garden, I'm seeing the flying-chest-bump-game as they playfully figure out their pecking order. Do only baby cockerels do the chest-bump game, or do baby pullets do this too? (they're 4 weeks old)

Thanks for any insights!

Did I ever mention that I *love* these chicks?

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Laseterlass, what adorable babies strolling through the livingroom!

What a great pic!

Kris, I wish I could come over and spoil your chicks for you. This is the neatest breed! Is that a goldneck d'Anver or d'Uccle in your avatar, may I ask?

For Aubrey, JJ, or anyone who's in-the-know, I've got two questions:

1. Aubrey mentioned that a mille fleur is a mottled variety of buff columbian. That got me thinking:

I've got only 2 chicks with black speckles on them, but the other 4 honestly kinda just look buff columbian. Will those eventually get black (and white) speckles/spangles/mottles too, and turn out to be mille fleur as they mature? I'll love them either way, I'm just curious!

2. During playtime in the garden, I'm seeing the flying-chest-bump-game as they playfully figure out their pecking order. Do only baby cockerels do the chest-bump game, or do baby pullets do this too? (they're 4 weeks old)

Thanks for any insights!

Did I ever mention that I *love* these chicks?

haha think you may have mentioned you loved them once before on some other page haha...

at 4 weeks your lucky to see any mottling at all, that's just normal. Mille to mille has no chance to be anything but mille.
But that is what they are, basically a buff columbian that is mottled. So when they start out they do tend to feather up columbian looking at first, then add spots as they age. Like we've said before, the longer it takes, usually the better they color out as adults. They continue to get more mottled into their second year, usually after the first adult molt they show what they are, but can, especially on the hens, add more into their second year. So a sparsly mottled cockerel/pullet usually is your best bird as an adult. A 6 month old that is heavily marked will usually be overly white as an adult.

the chest bump game.... I like that term haha

yes that's usually just a boy thing. Girls can do it, but it's not nearly as common in them, and usually at a much older age. Infact the only time I ever see it is in rare cases where I add a new pullet to an establish breeding pen. Some times a boss hen will "bump" her around a bit.... but usually is chicks that's all testosterone!

 

[warmheart]

Thanks, Aubrey, I'm learning so much!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Skin color/ chick comb color question: The chicks are now 4 weeks. Our palest chick with the lightest down color (whitish-yellow) has a raised comb now, with bumps. We thus believe him to be a boy-- but his comb is pale. (a very pale yellow)
The darkest-colored chick (very dark brown) has a comb that is not raised, is flat, has no bumps-- but is a dark red.

So.. does skin color impact comb color as babies? Could the very-dark-brown chick/ flat-but-dark-red-comb baby be a girl? Oh, the suspense!

PS--That's the one who built a nest on my hat!

I can but usually it's the sex hormones that do it more.
That being said, man it's hard to tell with these things at such a young age still, yall know me, on mine I dont even try.

But the one "nesting" ( you gone get pooped on by the way!) on your head has a girl look to her to me. Where the one in the last pic jumping off your chest I'm almost 100% sure is a cockerel. There's just something about the faces. The cockerels usually have that mean looking face for lack of a better way to say it, where the pullets just look sweet

on and in most cases, the pullets have thin skinny combs, if it starts getting wider in the front, that's a good boy sign

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Warmheart you are doing a great job spoiling them. Guess I need to get you here with mine. I have to many to spoil them all.

So Aubrey/ JJ the white ones I took a picture of is a dominate white Porcelain it seems and it looks like I have a pair.

Now what do I do with them??? I had a friend over who is experienced in d'uccles. She just was not sure how I could use them at this point.

So, I have:
Millie hens
Millie hens split to lavender
Goldneck hens (one of these has to be split to lavender as the dominate white roo has feathers on legs and came from the goldneck hens egg that also has feathering on her legs)

porcelain roo
millie roo (split to lavender most likely)
goldneck roo (too much white on him)

so what should I do with the
dominate white roo
dominate white pullet

is there any chance with any of them I can get a porcelain pullet out of any combination with these guys

haha ship 'em back to me!!!

you can do anything you want with them . Like JJ pointed on from my old post.... I'd continue making white tailed porcelains.

being that these most likely only have 1 copy of dominate white in them, anything you breed them too that is black based will only give back 50% white versions.

so

these to goldneck will give 50% milles and 50% goldnecks ( all split for lavender)

these to porcelains will give 50% porcelian and 50% white porcelain

these to milles will give 50% mille and 50% goldneck ( all split for lavender)

and these paired up should bred true.. though you may still get a normal porcelain or two

now for adding any of the ones that are already split for lavender, you get the same results basically, just 25% more are lavender versions... so pretty much the same as above just instead of being 50/50 it will 75% lavender versions and just 25% black versions because you added in a 3rd lavender gene to be used.

and on the dominate white part. If they just have 1 copy of dominate white... in otherwords only 1 parent bird was dominate white based and you bred to a black version, you get 50/50 on white and black.

If the bird came from both parents being dominate white, then pretty much everything comes out white based.

Unlike the recessive lavender which needs both parents to have it for the chick to show it. Dominate white only has to have 1 copy for it to be expressed in the bird.

These birds that end up with just 1 copy, can ONLY give it to 50% of their chicks. So that's why you get 50% of both versions from these birds.

same goes for a pair of goldnecks that only have 1 gene each, like mine currently are, each parent only contribues 1 gene so if they just have 1 copy of white, it only gets handed out half the time. so even from a pair of dominate white birds, if they only have 1 copy each, only 75% will be white, and the rest will be black versions.

now any time you have a double dosed dominate white bird, one that has 2 copies of the gene, everything you breed it to will always be a white version.

hope that all made some kinda sence. I can ramble at times.

oh, also in the porcelain case. The lavender is pretty much the same as black ( blue is too) so even on these birds, the dominate white will cover those areas as well and still dilute the reds and gold to that porcelain colored cream

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Thanks, Aubrey, I'm learning so much!

any time

 

[DuccleLover101]

Hi All! I have a breeding trio of Black D'anvers for sale. They are show quality and super sweet. I have one cockerel and two pullets. I will sell them all for $20.

I also hav a Quail D'anvers Cockerel. He is beautiful and show quality. I will sell him for $10.



You can contact me at [email protected]. My name is Amy.

 

[cieraphoto]

I would like to share some of my photos of my d'anvers. I hatched these from eggs I bought from boggy bottom bantams. They are the sweetest little things!

Out of the two pictures below which one is better for its variety? The lighter one, which is the top pic. Or the darker one that is in the bottom picture. I will be showing them.

 

[warmheart]

Cieraphoto, wow! Are those cuckoo? Crele? I love that pattern!

Aubrey, sweet vs mean faces?

I know just what you mean! But yes, the chick on my chest has a raised, bumpy comb and jumbo feet. The chick on my head (why yes, I *have* been pooped on!

) is my mystery chick. Comb is red, red red-- and has been for a few weeks now-- but is not raised. It came from a TINY egg and was the tiniest, latest-developing chick. The photo on my head was taken at 4 weeks old. And the personality? Well, check this out: (these photos are from a week or so ago)

I sometimes find this mellow, tiny Zen Master looking dead. Yes, dead!

Just blissed-out in a happy hippie trance state,

laying upside-down, tummy warming in the sunshine, just meditating there like that, toasting itself calmly as the other chicks dustbathe, scratch, hunt, etc....

"Um... 'scuse me, Ai be meditatin' heer....."

Mellow and Zen-like, this chick just hangs there like this!

"Ohhhmmm....ohhhhmmm.....ohhhhhmmmm..."

Notice in the pic of the chick on my cap, it isn't standing up, but has made a happy mellow blob of itself, laying down!

Here's a lil' more of a close-up, (was trying not to terrify you all with my visage) but my fiance lightened-up the photo, so the deep red comb color on the chick doesn't show.

Please let it be a pullet,

so I can keep this tiny Master Yoda!

Clearly, I'll just need to wait, as it's the tiniest, slowest-developing chick from the teeny-weeny egg. The suspense!

PS-- Got a close-up this morning of how rooster-y the comb looks to me (still red, kinda wide? although not raised ) Sweet face though, sweet, sweet, sweet & snuggly-gentle personality.. might hafta keep this one even if it may be a boy!

Omigod, what a sweet,mellow snuggler this chickie is!