d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Hackel Pine... you got them all sorted correct by color. And JJ pretty much covered the bases for you. The gold neck is a mille, it just has dominate white added which turns all black white, and dilutes reds to that orange color. If however, they only have 1 parent that was gold neck, their offspring will all be gold neck but when bred together, will make both goldnwck and mille fleur. So the mille is quite possible from them. Like JJ said, look for any black specks in the white.... that's the single copy ones.

As for the mille being blue, it does look blue. And splash milles do look like gold necks. So , being that blue mille is quite common in d uccles, they all could technically be splash milles, but they are never as clean as true. Gold necks. You'll have lots of blue specks mixed in. So, another option is they could of just been bred to blue milles. Dominate white will cover blue just like black since its just a diluter of black anyway. Then when the cross was made , the blue came back.

On the white, if they had a solid black in there at one time, it could of came from that as well. Also, a black mottled bred to a gold neck would create a solid white bird too

On the porcelains, just so you know, they are milles too. Just have lavender added.

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

My fiance did this first breeder pen for our chickens, do you think its okay for the winter? The inside is fenced and plastic covered so it has insulation. Going to make some adjustments on the other three, but its good for someone who has never built anything for chickens ever... right? lol I love it!!!

Not bad, but if a coon, dog, coyote. ect. can get to them you will want something more substantial than chicken wire on the outside. You don't have to start over or anything, just put some heavier gauge wire over top of it. I like the 16 gauge welded wire 1" X 1/2" mesh, keeps the birds out.

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

Never thought about a gold neck being made from a blue millie, or dominate white making a white bird from a black.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Zooming in as best as I can see, there does look to be some bluish spots on the hens, and that tail thing JJ mentioned. Being to think they are splash mille. Look close for blue in them. Easiest way to tell is breed them to a normal mille. If they are gold neck you'll get all gold neck and or some milles depending on the parents being single or double dosed dominate white.

Now, if they are in fact splash milles, if bred to a mille, you will get 100% blue milles.

Maybe that will help you figure em out.

On the white, what she will make, it just all depends on what it has in it. Being white, its hiding all its true genetics so tuff to say

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Haha I'll forgive ya JJ. That black mottled to gold neck makes all whites too. For that matter a solid blue or blue mottled could too.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Hacklepine, that's what I was talking about in saying it'd be hard to say what you could get from the white.
You'd have to test breed it too and post the results. Bunch of stuff could be hidden under it.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

JJ, candled tonight the sq didn't do anything, but all the others are going strong.

 

[HacklePineAcres]

I looked and one of the gold neck hens and the rooster have blackish spots on them. The roo has one spot on his tail and the hen has about 5-10 spots on her. The other hens are not spotted with anything other then white.

I asked the woman I got them from, she said the Millie and the White were hatched from the Golden Neck group. So that tells me right there, im looking at splash... at least in those two.

Thanks guys

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

nope not really,

if they are black spots, those a true gold necks, just ones with a single dose of dominate white
the hens with no black specks are most likely double dosed dominate white.

the mille came from the black specked pair is all.

I have single copy pairs of gold neck d'anvers. they make about 25% mille fleur in their hatches still, the others are goldneck.

still thinking, they just have had blue milles bred to them at one time or another, is why you got a blue mille. That being the case, from that specked pair, you can get, goldneck, mille, and blue mille. haha, now if they both have blue in them, yes you could get splash mille too.

the white is a mystery of sorts, IF it truly came from goldneck to goldneck matings.

as JJ said last night, they could carry recessive white, but if they did, God you're getting into a jumbled up mess of genes then.

 

[HacklePineAcres]

"but if they did, God you're getting into a jumbled up mess of genes then."


Yea... that's ALL I need! lol