d'anver lovers,discuss the breed and post some pics!

[nicalandia]

Not my bird. its from Belgium

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep always loved the reds. Seen some on a Germany d'anver site ( they are like old english are here over there) everyone has them and in a million colors.
My goldneck guy also has reds going, but is a couple years out still. Hopfully they will be here soon. They are on my to do list, but if this other guys beats me to it, I may just take the easy way and buy some from him.

 

[nicalandia]

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you can recreate them using Buff and Black Breasted Red..

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if you are interested in the genetics, just let me know and I´ll help you out.

 

[Backwoods Bntms]

Aubrey, talked to Tom today. I am getting two pair of millies from him.Just have to go after them. He's about 6.5 hours away, but I have another house at a lake 1/2 way there so it won't be a bad trip. Thanks for sending me that direction.

jj

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

that's great JJ, glad it worked out for you. You'll like them, mine came from him and Adam Cheany.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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you can recreate them using Buff and Black Breasted Red..

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if you are interested in the genetics, just let me know and I´ll help you out.

Thanks for that tip, have checked around and asked several times, but no one could give me a straight answer on how to make them from scratch.

Yes I would love to have more genetics info on it. That would be great. Always prefer staying in the breed when making a new color. So all this is good to know

 

[LauraLee]

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Can't wait to see pics!! Glad you got them, Oh, how many did ya get? Always love seeing new colors!!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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Can't wait to see pics!! Glad you got them, Oh, how many did ya get? Always love seeing new colors!!

got a trio, wanted more, but obviously they were pretty expensive

 

[nicalandia]

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Ok here I go..(just ask me if you have a question, I am not such a good teacher)

the color buff is a very interesting mix of Pheomelanin enhancers and Pheomelanin Diluters also. Of this enhancers Mahogany(Mh) is the strongest one and of the Diluters, Domiat Dilute(Di) is the most documented one so far. and we will focus on this two genes for now..

so baiscaly a buff bird is a wheaten based bird(ewh/ewh) that has been restricted(any black of the body reduced to a minimum, some more than others, some show complete lack of black others show some black peppering) this restriction is believe to be cause by Darkbrown(Db) or Columbian(Co). they have Mahogany(Mh) to enrich to gold Color to a deep red rich color(which is what you want in a Red D'Anver) and they carry Dominant Dilute(Di) to make that rich mahogany to a Rich Buff color..

I'll be using Henks chicken calculator.

so this is their genetic make up eWh/eWh Db/Db Mh/Mh Di/Di..
dont mind that they don't look like a self buff bird as what it takes totaly cover the tail in buff color is still undocumented genes, but you will get the idea.

now to the Black Breasted Red D'Anvers. they are basicaly WildType in color(looking very close to Red Jungle Fowl in color) so they are recessive to all of the Buff genetic make up.

this is their genetic make up so far. e+/e+ db+/db+ mh+/mh+ di+/di+

using the genetic calculator..

Ok now on the Calculator it will tell you that all of your birds will look buff instead of red. but this is NOT the case in real life. let me try to explain that in the next page ok..

 

[nicalandia]

so why this is NOT the case? well Di(Dominant Dilute) is sex influenced and Di/di+ roosters don't look restricted therefore looking Red instead of buff...

some words from one of my mentors...
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