DE as bug control in feed = FAIL

[nancypo]

I see Docs on a needed basis. My experience over decades (and from working in a hospital) has been that most M.D.s have little training in supplements. For example- my school nurse and I both take 2000 mg of Vit. D daily, as it's really good for your immune system, prevents bone loss in women. We had swine flu go thru our school and we were both fine, (with no recommended vaccines) and I have a "compromised" respiratory system. Later my MD said that Vit. D is showing promise in MS and reduces mortality across the board 7%, and it's cheap!

Everyone has to do their own research and take some responsibility for their own actions. I would have had very serious consequences, years ago, if I hadn't asked tough questions of my docs and refused certain, over-priced treatments, un-needed treatments. Most med schools are funded (atleast partially) by big pharma. They're not exactly pro-wellness

If you don't want supplements, don't take them. I don't think anything is a "cure all", but we all know our bodies better than anyone else and what works for us. My labs tell me that too.

 

[AnnainMD]

Have to agree with the failed DE bug killer in feed. BUT my bugs were not weevils, it's those little tiny black fly/bug looking things. Didn't work. However, I do use the DE in the nest boxes to keep mites and other buggers from bothering the girls. This is all PREVENTIVE as the girls have no issues (knock on wood). Have no idea how effective food-grade DE would be against a real problem. I DO use the regular DE as a natural insecticide in the garden and it works.

Interesting side note: everyone says to buy food grade DE but I had actually sprinkled NON-FOOD grade DE to kill the earwigs outside the coop and the chickens ate some through normal pecking activity (several times) and there were no problems. It may be a cumulative effect but there's only one way to find out and who wants to use their girls as guinea pigs? Not me!

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

I have used it (food grade) in smoothies, has extra calcium, kills parasites, good for people too....

There is NO Calcium iin DE
It's 96% Silica​

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Methinks you are on a crusade against DE... you are on every post about it

You seem to be on all of them too, spreading the same misinformation.

It's basically SAND and it has NO beneficial effects when ingested.

All the anecdotal evidence in the world won't change that reality​

 

[midd2005]

folks: i didn't mean to cause a stir. just reporting on what happened for me and was interested in others' experiences using DE in feed to kill bugs in DE. nothing more nothing less. carry on.

and sorry to whoever offered to come on out and check on the situation on the ground for a few months. i'm wise to that one. no deal. but if you want recommendations on where to stay during your visit to Oahu, i'm your gal.

 

[nancypo]

Bear Foot- It did kill my parasites

Much more comfortably than meds. Technically it's not sand, but rather powdered ancient fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. Whatever works for each person...

 

[24279102]

To mtnhomechick - try the car freshner trees - vanilla scent - it is amazing for keeping the flies away - smells nice, too!

 

[dawg53]

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M.D's have years of specialized training and experience in their respective fields as you well know. Without going into detail, among the 23 meds my wife takes, there are 4 that are vitamins prescribed by her rheumatologist. DE is not on that list because doctors are smart enough to know that DE doesnt cure anything. You state you have a "compromised" respiratory system, DE is hazardous to breathe, you need to wear an OSHA approved mask, check an MSDS for DE. Also, the next time you see your doc, ask him for a script for generic meds instead of brand name, always cheaper at a discount chain.

 

[nancypo]

I'm glad you have a Doc who understands supplements! Many don't, or won't, prescribe them. I always get generics, no brainer there. And yes, you do have to be careful with DE and not breathe it in... never had a problem there myself.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Bear Foot- It did kill my parasites Much more comfortably than meds. Technically it's not sand, but rather powdered ancient fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae

I never said it wouldn't kill some insects. I've always stated that is the ONLY thing it does. (IF it's dry)

But your claim was it's a CALCIUM supplement, which is totally false, since there is NO Calcium in Food Grade DE

It is CHEMICALLY identical to sand, since Silica is the most common element in the Earth's crust.
There is NO benefit in ingesting it, since it will NOT dissolve in stomach acid, and passes through unchanged.

The word "fossilized" means all organic material has been replaced with STONE, so you're eating powdered ROCK

The SHAPE of the Diatoms is what makes it work as a mechanical insecticide, but any other claims as to benefits are hype and fairy tales.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_dioxide

The chemical compound silicon dioxide, also known as silica (from the Latin silex), is an oxide of silicon with a chemical formula of SiO2 and has been known for its hardness since antiquity. Silica is most commonly found in nature as sand or quartz, as well as in the cell walls of diatoms. Silica is the most abundant mineral in the Earth's crust.

It is indigestible, with no nutritional value and no toxicity.
When silica is ingested orally, it passes unchanged through the gastrointestinal (GI) tract, exiting in the feces, leaving no trace behind.

Don't spread the falsehoods when the facts are easy to find​