DE as bug control in feed = FAIL

[Wolfwoman]

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You seem to be on all of them too, spreading the same misinformation.

It's bacially SAND and it has NO beneficial effects when ingested.

All the anecdotal evidence in the world won't change that reality

Name ONE place where I have spread misinformation! I have ONLY asked questions (initially) about it, and just recently stated MY EXPERIENCE with it. I may have listed some links that I'd found, but THAT is out there for anyone to find.

I also stated (in some thread) that if it makes someone FEEL better, why do you care if it's the DE or NOT if it WORKS?? I tell you what, if someone gives me a pill and it WORKS I DO NOT CARE if it's sugar!!

And as far as misinformation, please don't quote WIKI as a source!

 

[redhen]

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M.D's have years of specialized training and experience in their respective fields as you well know. Without going into detail, among the 23 meds my wife takes, there are 4 that are vitamins prescribed by her rheumatologist. DE is not on that list because doctors are smart enough to know that DE doesnt cure anything. You state you have a "compromised" respiratory system, DE is hazardous to breathe, you need to wear an OSHA approved mask, check an MSDS for DE. Also, the next time you see your doc, ask him for a script for generic meds instead of brand name, always cheaper at a discount chain.

What he said....

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

And as far as misinformation, please don't quote WIKI as a source

LOL
Are you claiming the scientific information on WIKI is invalid, but your hearsay isn't?

Name ONE place where I have spread misinformation

Here you go:

I also stated (in some thread) that if it makes someone FEEL better, why do you care if it's the DE or NOT if it WORKS?? I tell you what, if someone gives me a pill and it WORKS I DO NOT CARE if it's sugar!!

And ALLLLLLLL those people are going to deny ANY natural health benefits because if people get BETTER they don't make any money or get kickbacks from the Rx.

You can't tell me that most Drs. wouldn't support it even if it did work.

It can't make you "feel better" if it doesn't do anything at all.
Advising people to use something you KNOW doesn't work is MISINFORMATION.

If you don't like the scientific facts on WIKI, feel free to look it up on a source of your choosing.
They won't change at all.

Everyone should do their own research based on SCIENCE and not sales pitches or what people "feel".
The science says if you're eating DE you're eating sand, and the benefits are the same.
Sand is just a lot cheaper and easier to find​

 

[spoggy]

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Analysis of Fossil Shell Flour

Aluminum (Al) % 0.65
Boron (B) 0.0023
Calcium (Ca) 0.40
% CaO (calculated from %Ca) 0.55
Copper (Cu) 0.0019
Iron (Fe) 0.72
Magnesium (Mg) 0.21
%MgO (calculated from %Mg) 0.34
Manganese (Mn) 0.0052
Phosphorus (as P205) 0.037
Potassium (K) 0.16
Sodium (Na) 0.26
Strontium (Sr) ppm 59.9
Sulfate Sulfur (S) 0.062
Titanium (Ti) ppm 420
Vanadium (V)ppm 43.8
Zinc (Zn) 0.0022
Chlorides .074% or 740 ppm or .067% or 670 ppm

This analysis is defined as percentages by weight.

(information gathered from Here )

Just as you admonish members from posting unsubstanciated claims, you should refrain from doing the same. There is actual calcium, along with a variety of other minerals that living organisms use metabolically, present in DE shell flour. That being said, I cannot verify that these minerals are metabolically available in this form.

 

[speckledhen]

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It will kill them sooner or later, but it won't stop new ones from hatching.

Freeze your feed and you won't have a problem

Yup. It's always killed anything in my feed, but I never had a huge infestation. The softer bodied bugs die best with DE.

 

[HyLinda]

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[nancypo]

I did mis-state the calcium, what I should have said was that it can strengthen bones. You appear to have an issue with this material, which is fine. Anecdotal observations have been used for eons in folk medicine eventually into "modern" medical treatment. As adult here, we can all make our own health choices and agree to disagree. I personally, would never base any serious decision on Wiki, but that's just me. To each their own. I choose not to take vaccines based on personal experiences/studies. Other people do, that's ok. If you don't want to use DE, then don't, that's simple enough. Just don't tell others what to do.

 

[nancypo]

Calcium, well there's some: Calcium (Ca) 0.40, so saying there's NONE would be erroneous as well.

 

[al6517]

I have found that with respect to the DE craze that it must be used more as a maintenance preventer and part of an overall prevention regime. I like DE and do use it often, spead on coop & run floors, nest boxes feed areas and in the feed, I spread it along the boarders of the coop & Run's, I put some in their water and also dust them with it and their dusting pit's, I use it in and around the compost pile and droppings boards. I have never had a problem with bug's or mites or anything related, but that's not to say that the DE application is the reason alone, I do also keep good clean conditions and sanitation practices so I think the combination of the 2 makes the difference. So to be honest I do like the stuff, but you have to take the hype for what's it worth, also I can get DE here locally very cheap and that also help's the cause.

AL

 

[nancypo]

I use it in the coop as part of the deep litter method and no odor and nice and dry!