Deep litter method

Question: (I know the answer is in here somewhere but don't have time to search).
The litter in my coop has been there since August. I've slowly added bedding. I use pine shavings. The girls bring in leaves,mud and whatnot. Plus they occasionally like to kick all the straw out of the nesting boxes, so that's in there too. I break it all up and stir it around about once a week. More if it gets packed down. Their poop is breaking down nicely, and the shavings are starting to break down. But here's my issue; it's starting the smell like a cat box with cheap kitty littler. In other words, a string ammonia smell. That can't be healthy for the girls right? So here's my question... What can I do, short of cleaning it out? I'd like to wait till the weather is warmer and a little less wet before starting over with the litter. Suggestions?

I'd stop stirring it around....just layer dry on top of the more saturated bedding and cap it off in that way~if you need to cover piles of poop under the roosts, just lightly pick up dry bedding and flip it over onto the poop. That ammonia smell is the byproduct of the breakdown of manure and bedding. Add ventilation at the floor level to ventilate it out of there, as fresh air comes in at the bottom it will move the stale air up and out of the coop. If you want to stir it around to aerate it, do so before adding dry bedding so that you don't lose your dry bedding into the moist bedding and lose the benefit from it at the top layer.

Another way to dispel odor in the coop is to start feeding fermented feeds, which predigests the feed for the chicken, allowing them to retain and absorb more of the nutrition in the feed so that less is expelled in the fecal matter. The bad smells in chicken poop are the undigested grains decomposing on the coop floor, where they attract flies and emit ammonia if allowed to build up. Feces from fermented feeding have less of that undigested matter, so the break down in the litter is quicker and less odoriferous. That bad smell? That's your money on the floor going to waste and making it hard to manage the DL. The fermented feed can save you almost half of what you are currently paying out in feed costs while making your coop environment healthier and easier to manage...and it doesn't cost a dime more to turn your feed into a fermented one.
 
You need to add to the deep litter - pine shavings, leaves, whatever - on a regular basis and add MORE whenever you get any odor. As the litter breaks down, there's less and less of it to soak up the droppings. I'd add a lot more litter and make sure you have adequate ventilation so that any odor can get out of the coop.

When you regularly add to the litter, you won't have any smell as the new litter is replacing what has broken down. Once that ratio of new litter vs. old is off balance, you'll begin to get smell.

Ok thanks :)
 
Question: (I know the answer is in here somewhere but don't have time to search).
The litter in my coop has been there since August. I've slowly added bedding. I use pine shavings. The girls bring in leaves,mud and whatnot. Plus they occasionally like to kick all the straw out of the nesting boxes, so that's in there too. I break it all up and stir it around about once a week. More if it gets packed down. Their poop is breaking down nicely, and the shavings are starting to break down. But here's my issue; it's starting the smell like a cat box with cheap kitty littler. In other words, a string ammonia smell. That can't be healthy for the girls right? So here's my question... What can I do, short of cleaning it out? I'd like to wait till the weather is warmer and a little less wet before starting over with the litter. Suggestions?


Make sure you have enough ventilation. I know when my roof vents are blocked with snow I start to get an odor. I also will kick up the DL during the winter since it gets packed down so much. Then I add some new litter to the mix. The girls will then spread it back out and mix the old with new.
 
I have started something with my birds. In the morning, for their breakfast, I'll take out fermented whole grains and scatter measured amounts into their deep litter. I really like watching them work. It will increase their body heat on those cold mornings too working off some of that fat that tends to accumulate on contained birds. They get in the bad habit of waiting for food and then standing around eating it. Then they wait for the next meal. They need exercise and this is working out very well. They're keeping the deep litter mixed up and aerated too.
 
I'd stop stirring it around....just layer dry on top of the more saturated bedding and cap it off in that way~if you need to cover piles of poop under the roosts, just lightly pick up dry bedding and flip it over onto the poop. That ammonia smell is the byproduct of the breakdown of manure and bedding. Add ventilation at the floor level to ventilate it out of there, as fresh air comes in at the bottom it will move the stale air up and out of the coop. If you want to stir it around to aerate it, do so before adding dry bedding so that you don't lose your dry bedding into the moist bedding and lose the benefit from it at the top layer.

Another way to dispel odor in the coop is to start feeding fermented feeds, which predigests the feed for the chicken, allowing them to retain and absorb more of the nutrition in the feed so that less is expelled in the fecal matter. The bad smells in chicken poop are the undigested grains decomposing on the coop floor, where they attract flies and emit ammonia if allowed to build up. Feces from fermented feeding have less of that undigested matter, so the break down in the litter is quicker and less odoriferous. That bad smell? That's your money on the floor going to waste and making it hard to manage the DL. The fermented feed can save you almost half of what you are currently paying out in feed costs while making your coop environment healthier and easier to manage...and it doesn't cost a dime more to turn your feed into a fermented one.
i never heard of fermented feeds, what is the name of it and can we get it at a regular feed store?
 
Bee convinced me to ferment my feed and I'm so happy with it. It really does save money by making your feed stretch to more meals and no waste. But it is also healthier for them by adding probiotics that is similar to yogurt and other active cultured foods. Look on those threads for the how and why.
 
Beekissed suggested that I post this on here. She thought that several of you might be interested. I found this hand hay/leaf baler the other day and thought I would try it out this year. It is the instructions to build a hand hay/leaf baler. I know I have plenty of leaves around here that it shouldn't take too much work to get them gathered up and this would also work with lawn clippings if properly dried before baling.

Here is the link: http://www.oakhillhomestead.com/2007/09/hay-baling.html

I hope some of you will find this information useful!
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Very handy gadget that looks pretty easy to construct and could really make storing bedding a lot easier and neater for us folks who gather our own bedding.
THank you-- well worth looking into!!
 
I'm going to have to see what lumber scraps I can use around here to devise that thing because I think it would be a neat thing to have baled up leaves and grasses here...and also would love to see anyone's expression years from now when I'm long dead and gone.... they try to figure out what in the world that thing IS.
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I'm going to have to see what lumber scraps I can use around here to devise that thing because I think it would be a neat thing to have baled up leaves and grasses here...and also would love to see anyone's expression years from now when I'm long dead and gone.... they try to figure out what in the world that thing IS.
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Bee, if you build that thing, think you could will it to me when you go? LOL! I'd love to have one just to take care of the willow leaves in my yard every winter. I refilled the coop 4 times just with willow leaves this fall!
 

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