Deep wound below cloaca

[Kiki]

ok ... try to wrap your heads around this one!
http://forum.thepoultrysite.com/discussion/6989/redirect/p1

What is this discussion about? I'll search for it.

 

[Mrs. Light Sussex]

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impacted crop emergency - home surgery?
CharlotteRose Junior Member
October 2008 edited October 2008 in Poultry Health and Welfare
hi there,
our cooks have overcome lead poisoning this week.
but one now has an impacted crop. we have tried flushing and massaging with no avail.
does anyone have any advice on the simple surgery?
i heard you can do it at home as the chooks have no nerves in their crops and that the cut should heal without stiches...
any advise, as always is greatly appreciated
charlotte
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crazychick Senior Member
October 2008 edited October 2008
Chooks do indeed have nerves in their crops, so be aware of that during the surgery. And the incision will heal without stitches, but you can use suture or crazy glue if needed.

You'll need a sterile scalpel, soap, water, gauze or cotton balls, tweezers, crazyglue (superglue) that IS skin bonding OR a sterile needle and suture material, an empty cup to put goo in, a person to hold the bird, a towel, rubbing alcohol or betadine. Find an area on the crop that is relatively free of blood vessels- you'll be able to see them in the skin. The incision should be made about halfway down the crop- far enough down that you can reach the impaction but not at the very base of the crop. Cut or pluck some feathers from that area, wash the area thoroughly 3 times, rinsing in between. Dab the area with rubbing alcohol. Make sure bird is wrapped quietly in a towel and is held firmly by your helper. Generally the bird is very well behaved during this procedure... find the area that is more or less devoid of blood vessels, then, using your sterile scalpel, make an incision that is about 1 inch long. Use enough pressure on the scalpel to cut through the skin and thin muscle layer below. Once in the crop, quickly remove all the crud. When you are done and satisfied that the impaction is gone, give the bird about 10 cc of water in the crop to flush through any crud and give the bird a bit of water. If you have some, rinse the incision with saline solution. Now, without gluing yourself to your chicken, put a thin line of superglue on the incision and glue the edges of the muscle and skin together. Put the bird in an area where he won't be bothered, keep him quiet and warm and do NOT give the bird water or food. If you are worried about dehydration, you can give him subcutaneous fluids under his skin (on his back and where his wings meet his body). Inject STERILE saline, about 5 cc per side of the chicken, just under the skin until you form a little blister of fluid, The fluid will dissapate quickly. Repeat the subcutaneous fluids every 4-6 hours for the first 24 hours. The chicken should have nothing to eat or drink for 24 hours, then you can start to offer them fluids and pureed babyfood (squash, carrots, apples, pears etc). Check to make sure there is no weeping around the wound. You may choose to put him on antibiotics, such as baytril (10-15 mg/kg) if you suspect an infection (talk to your vet).

Laura

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

notice how there is not a S right after the http?
It doesn't mean it is a bad site but it is not a secure one.

See...I had no idea...

 

[Boonie Stomper]

point is... ASSUMING the OP's hen has in fact a deep wound BELOW the vent, tben a good bit of the repair for the above crop surgury should be applicable to the wound.
BUT nothing has been said about how the wound in question came to be OR about how tbe hen has been pooping or laying.
Inquiring minds need to know!

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

point is... ASSUMING the OP's hen has in fact a deep wound BELOW the vent, tben a good bit of the repair for the above crop surgury should be applicable to the wound.
BUT nothing has been said about how the wound in question came to be OR about how tbe hen has been pooping or laying.
Inquiring minds need to know!

I think I got sidetracked.. apologies to the op!
I should have thought to ask those way before now..

 

[Boonie Stomper]

@Toltecmaster
wow.... i just found the FIRST part of this story in the 1st post OP made - this is 2nd thread on same emergency but who knew?

here it is:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/wound-below-cloaca.1222236/

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

 

[Boonie Stomper]

In looking at day 1 versus day 7 the wound does look like it's trying to heal

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2nd photo is the at 7 days point.
if only the adjacent feathers were velcro it would be easy to hold in that bulge.
hmmmm....

 

[Wickedchicken6]

@Toltecmaster
wow.... i just found the FIRST part of this story in the 1st post OP made - this is 2nd thread on same emergency but who knew?

here it is:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/wound-below-cloaca.1222236/

The first thread was Sunday? If she was my hen I would likely dispatch her if that is intestine that's exposed. If it has not been kept moist, that tissue is not likely going to function properly and I'd expect it to turn necrotic if it hasn't already.

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

The first thread was Sunday? If she was my hen I would likely dispatch her if that is intestine that's exposed. If it has not been kept moist, that tissue is not likely going to function properly and I'd expect it to turn necrotic if it hasn't already.

The op said they have been keeping it moist with honey cream and antibiotic ointment (I think, it's in the first post).