Detached air cell question

[CalicoFarm]

I wanted to ask the experts her on BYC how many of you have hatched shipped eggs that had detached air cells. When I first started getting shipped eggs I recieved some Serama eggs that all the air cells were detached. The very nice lady told me to set the eggs and not turn them for 3 days. Out of 12 eggs, 11 developed, 6 hatched. I was happy with that.
The reason I am asking is I had sold some eggs to someone and they informed me all had detached cells and the person wants me to replace all of them. They think they are not even worth setting.
I would just like to hear everyones opinion on this.

Thanks

 

[my1stchicks]

I really don't think you have any obligation to replace them. The detached sacs would have been caused by shipping and as long as they were packaged well once put in the post office hands it's up to them. If you feel like replacing them that is up to you. Just my opinion

It's a risk we all take with shipped eggs.

 

[CalicoFarm]

In the email they mentioned "supurb packing job". I took that as no broken ones.

 

[jossanne]

Well, my incubator is a broody hen, and my last batch of shipped eggs came with detached air cells. None hatched. I had been told not to expect any to hatch using a broody, and that person was right. I've heard it's possible using an incubator, though.

 

[Junkmanme]

ADMITTEDLY, I know NOTHING about this. But, it SEEMS logical that IF the eggs are positioned with the small side down and allowed to sit for 12-24 hours in the "correct position" to allow for acclimating to ambient temperature BEFORE putting into incubator........this would "presumably" solve the problem. ???

???

just commenting..and also ASKING ?

-Junkmanme-

 

[Bananas]

So is it fair to say that generally if air sacs are detached upon arrival, that they've had a hard shipping with the PO?

I'm still new to hatching and I had one shipment with almost all the sacs detached, but the two other shipments I have received only 1 egg out of both was detached.
Just trying to understand how this all works...

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

you can put them in the bator (we put them small end down in a egg carton for this) and leave them for 10 days.....after the 10 days rock them back and fourth in the egg carton until they go to the hatcher. By doing this you stabilize the air cell, but your hatch rate will dramatically drop.

I no longer sell eggs but when I do I put a disclaimer in the ad stating that I promise to send fresh, fertile eggs, but due to post office handling and individual incubating techniques no guarantees will be given.......you are under no obligation to replace the eggs. They took the chance and bought hatching eggs through the mail. How can you pay the feed bill if you keep sending out new eggs? You have to draw a line somewhere.....sure, replace them if it was your fault......

 

[CalicoFarm]

I clearly stated that I was not resposible for the way the PO handled the eggs. This person went on to tell me how they packages their eggs. My worst hatches came from the way he described, including broken eggs. I packaged mine using the method of one of BYC well respected members. This person really liked my birds(so they said) and I am just wondering if they are trying to get over on me. I am just at a loss to what I should do.

 

[Junkmanme]

I would do whatever made ME feel most comfortable with myself. That is who I MUST live with.

-Junkmanme-

 

[CalicoFarm]

Thanks Junkmanme, that's just what I'm going to do.