Determine hatch date without setting date

Thanks Amiga.

Still no pipping...seem the same to me. Quite dark, can see a bit of movement.

New 14- just cause they are fertile doesn't mean they will develop. There is a great art to the holding period, and the early turning as well. If you candle, and you see veins, they are developing. Otherwise no. If you saw veins, and now you don't it has died. Unless it is totally dark and near hatch.
 

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