Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[cochins1088]

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You can use a fogger with permethrin

Its pretty heavy duty but works as it gets into every nook and cranny

I put permethrin on my skin with insect repellent

http://www.pbigordon.com/pdfs/Permethrin-10-SL.pdf

You can also fog with oxine to kill resp diseases

I currently use the permethrin dust. I apply it directly on the birds and rub it in.

I should take a picture of my "coop". It's literally just a bunch of dog kennel panels with tarps set up in the barn.

I'll look into the fogger.

 

[loveourbirds]

it has worked well for me, how it works fyi - it is a low level poison that gets in the bloodstream. when insects feed on flesh or blood from these animals, it poisons them. it doesnt work instantly and needs to be redosed in 10 days. i clean out all bedding and replace with bedding/tobacco mixture. when dosing it, try to keep it where the chicken wont groom often; and make sure it gets past the feathers and onto the skin.

again, i would not use this on chickens i plan to eat. and i do not eat the eggs from the chickens i use it on - you will have to research that end of it.

 

[cochins1088]

it has worked well for me, how it works fyi - it is a low level poison that gets in the bloodstream. when insects feed on flesh or blood from these animals, it poisons them. it doesnt work instantly and needs to be redosed in 10 days. i clean out all bedding and replace with bedding/tobacco mixture. when dosing it, try to keep it where the chicken wont groom often; and make sure it gets past the feathers and onto the skin.

again, i would not use this on chickens i plan to eat. and i do not eat the eggs from the chickens i use it on - you will have to research that end of it.

Yeah, that's why I don't believe that it will help kill the lice. The lice eat the feathers of the birds, not the flesh.

 

[loveourbirds]

lice suck the blood from chickens. there are feather mites that do eat the feathers, i dont know as we have had them here - if we have the ivomec cured them.

 

[cochins1088]

lice suck the blood from chickens. there are feather mites that do eat the feathers, i dont know as we have had them here - if we have the ivomec cured them.

I thought it was the lice that ate the feathers and the mites that suck the blood?



The following is from this link: http://club.omlet.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6949

"Lice which affect birds chew their host rather than biting, they do not suck blood, they feed on dry skin scales and feathers."

 

[cochins1088]

There are feather mites, but what I am dealing with is the feather lice.

The mites I'm dealing with are a red brown color and they cause patches of bloody scabs on the infected birds. I think that they're northen fowl mites, but I'm not sure.

 

[cochins1088]

lice suck the blood from chickens. there are feather mites that do eat the feathers, i dont know as we have had them here - if we have the ivomec cured them.

I'm thinking about doubling up with poultry dust and Ivermectin.

Have you ever done this before? I'm worried that it would be too much for the birds.

 

[loveourbirds]

Poultry lice are tiny, wingless, 6-legged, flat-bodied, insects with

Figure 1. Lice eggs at the base of the feather shaft​

broad, round heads. They lay their eggs on the host bird’s feathers, especially near the base of the feather shaft (Figure 1). A female louse will lay 50 to 300 eggs at a time, which she cements to the feather shaft. There are several species of lice that affect poultry, and multiple species can affect a bird at any given time. Some species can be localized on specific locations like the quill lice; or others can be found over most of the body surface like the chicken body lice. The lice found on poultry do not suck blood as the lice found in other species of animals; rather they feed on dry skin scales, feathers, and scabs. However, they will ingest blood extruding from irritated skin. The entire life cycle of the lice occurs on the host bird, primarily in the feathers. Poultry lice are host specific and cannot be transferred to humans.


i guess by this you can say we are both right LOL. i do know that the ivomec did cure it on our flock. im just guessing and may be wrong, but if the blood is poison, then the feathers and skin is probably poison too.

 

[loveourbirds]

i dont think i would use both, your doubling the poison in the chicken. either one is going to do some good if done properly, if your first try doesnt work then try the second one a couple weeks later. paying attention to your chickens that are affected the worst you should see a change, pick the one that works best for you. keep in mind bugs become immune to poisons after time, so switching may be the best method for you.

 

[cochins1088]

i dont think i would use both, your doubling the poison in the chicken. either one is going to do some good if done properly, if your first try doesnt work then try the second one a couple weeks later. paying attention to your chickens that are affected the worst you should see a change, pick the one that works best for you. keep in mind bugs become immune to poisons after time, so switching may be the best method for you.

Yeah.. I'll buy some Ivermectin on Monday and we'll see if it helps. Hopefully it'll at least get rid of the mites.

Thanks for the advice!