Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

a $250 device.......

I know! ha ha ha

I was thinking you could just make one alot cheaper! It sure is putting a bit more of your profession into incubating!

 

[ozexpat]

I know! ha ha ha

I was thinking you could just make one alot cheaper! It sure is putting a bit more of your profession into incubating!

i will have to try a doppler microphone on an egg - the ones used to find fetal hearts

 

[lizanne]

OMG I always get sidetracked running into new info.... pasting this so I can go read it later!!

http://www.lafebervet.com/avian-med...s-images-and-facts-to-help-you-talk-the-talk/

Since the chick will not draw the yolk sac into the coelom until carbon dioxide levels rise, placing the entire egg within a partially sealed plastic bag with a moistened, sterile gauze or re-sealing the eggshell with wax or Elmer’s glue may also be indicated.

When commercial hatcheries wash eggs they do it in water warmer than the egg to prevent the water and potential bacteria entering the egg. It stands to reason that the same would apply to misting.

The study basically shows that even of you drill the right size hole, the carbon dioxide is much lower in the air cell. This deceased the chicks response to hypercarbia and it's need to get out of the shell. The increasing carbon dioxide level on a normal egg causes the chick to externally pip.

The water loss improves but hatchability does not.

I found no increase in hatchability with late hole drilling in my experiments.

Could you just close up all the air plugs until the eggs started pipping? So -IF- you were to restrict air flow around lockdown would the eggs pip sooner?

THE EGG BUDDY!
https://www.avitronics.co.uk/what_buddy_offer
Your troubles are over!!!

During the last 9 years we have been working at taking the guesswork out of incubation. After a terrific amount of work and research we are pleased to announce the arrival of Buddy, the first and only digital egg monitor in the world that has been made available to those involved in egg incubation.

There is no heat radiation whatsoever, so Buddy is completely safe.
If your egg is fertile then Buddy will tell you by around day seven or eight.
You simply place your egg in the egg compartment, close the lid and press the "on" button. You will instantly be given information from the onboard screen via a flashing heart, Pulse readout, and three-digit heart rate. (You will be amazed how rapid a chick’s heart beats)!
If the chick is moving then the Buddy egg monitor will tell you. When the chick settles the readout reverts back to heart rate. If the chick is not alive Buddy will let you know, showing a black still heart, a flat Pulse line and zero heart rate readout.

This reminds me of those digital pregnancy test. If you can't figure out the "lines" the have the one that says - pregnant, or -not pregnant. The only thing I would want that for would be really dark eggs. By day 8 it is pretty easy to see if they are clear or not. A pregnancy/fetal heart monitor might work. I wonder if I still have one around.....

 

[Bhmathews]

Is there a point of humidity dropping too low while I try to get the eggs to lose weight before day 18? After a week of our furnace hardly running, it's back on running pretty steadily. You can tell because the house is a lot drier! The humidity in the bator is now down to 14%. Should I leave it? Is it too low? The eggs need to drop about 4% in the next 3 days.

Thank you for all your help with this hatch! I'm sitting on pins and needles!

 

[lizanne]

So I may have (super carefully) candled my eggs a little early --Day 4.

. I can see development in all but 3 of them!!! It's so exciting!

 

[blzzrdqueen]

Good morning all. Some of you may or may not remember me. I was here this time last year with my first hatch, 9 out of 16 eggs, all different breeds, from a local farmer. This year, I got shipped silkie eggs. Most of the air cells were saddled. I had two out of the 14 I set that were not fertile, and 9 eggs made it to lockdown. I am on day 20 today. My egg lady told me her silkes eggs like to hatch on day 20, so I'm super nervous and excited that today may be the day. I candled to check for internal pips and I know for sure two chicks have because when I hold the eggs up to my ear I can hear the chirping and one I can hear the beak hitting the shell. I'm really not good at this waiting part.

My question is, now that those two have for sure internally pipped, how much time do you give them before you give them a little hand? I have trouble getting my humidity high enough, I have 4 cups of water with sponges in them and a wet warm washcloth in there as well and we are sitting at 54% right now. I may have to add another cloth but I am running out of room. My hygro is right on, so that is not the issue. I won't help if I don't have to but for rule of thumb how long do you wait before a little help?

Thank you all for your sound advice, you guys all rock. Even though I don't post alot this time around, I do read!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote:

THE EGG BUDDY!
https://www.avitronics.co.uk/what_buddy_offer
Your troubles are over!!!

During the last 9 years we have been working at taking the guesswork out of incubation. After a terrific amount of work and research we are pleased to announce the arrival of Buddy, the first and only digital egg monitor in the world that has been made available to those involved in egg incubation.

There is no heat radiation whatsoever, so Buddy is completely safe.
If your egg is fertile then Buddy will tell you by around day seven or eight.
You simply place your egg in the egg compartment, close the lid and press the "on" button. You will instantly be given information from the onboard screen via a flashing heart, Pulse readout, and three-digit heart rate. (You will be amazed how rapid a chick’s heart beats)!
If the chick is moving then the Buddy egg monitor will tell you. When the chick settles the readout reverts back to heart rate. If the chick is not alive Buddy will let you know, showing a black still heart, a flat Pulse line and zero heart rate readout.

This reminds me of those digital pregnancy test. If you can't figure out the "lines" the have the one that says - pregnant, or -not pregnant. The only thing I would want that for would be really dark eggs. By day 8 it is pretty easy to see if they are clear or not. A pregnancy/fetal heart monitor might work. I wonder if I still have one around.....

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Is there a point of humidity dropping too low while I try to get the eggs to lose weight before day 18? After a week of our furnace hardly running, it's back on running pretty steadily. You can tell because the house is a lot drier! The humidity in the bator is now down to 14%. Should I leave it? Is it too low? The eggs need to drop about 4% in the next 3 days.

Thank you for all your help with this hatch! I'm sitting on pins and needles!

Mine doesnt go lower than 17% this time of year here and I never had an issue and I am doing better with hatches not worrying about it. 4% is great loss for 3 days, so if you decide to add I wouldnt go more than 20%

So I may have (super carefully) candled my eggs a little early --Day 4.

. I can see development in all but 3 of them!!! It's so exciting!

YAY!!!!! and candle day 4? ha ha ha ha I just tossed our CCLxPolish they are still infertile, did I send some of those? I just put another batch in! SHE WILL GIVE ME CHICKS AT SOME POINT BY ALL THATS IN ME!! ha ha ha

Good morning all. Some of you may or may not remember me. I was here this time last year with my first hatch, 9 out of 16 eggs, all different breeds, from a local farmer. This year, I got shipped silkie eggs. Most of the air cells were saddled. I had two out of the 14 I set that were not fertile, and 9 eggs made it to lockdown. I am on day 20 today. My egg lady told me her silkes eggs like to hatch on day 20, so I'm super nervous and excited that today may be the day. I candled to check for internal pips and I know for sure two chicks have because when I hold the eggs up to my ear I can hear the chirping and one I can hear the beak hitting the shell. I'm really not good at this waiting part.

My question is, now that those two have for sure internally pipped, how much time do you give them before you give them a little hand? I have trouble getting my humidity high enough, I have 4 cups of water with sponges in them and a wet warm washcloth in there as well and we are sitting at 54% right now. I may have to add another cloth but I am running out of room. My hygro is right on, so that is not the issue. I won't help if I don't have to but for rule of thumb how long do you wait before a little help?

Thank you all for your sound advice, you guys all rock. Even though I don't post alot this time around, I do read!

sounds like they dont need a hand! sound like strong chicks!

Please refer to the hatching 101 or assist article, I also added "timeline of a silky hatching" from internal notice of pip to hatch, it took well over a day! go have a look!

When the majority has hatched you will want to follow the assist article. Sounds like your doing a great job!

Please post with us! we would love to follow along with you on their hatch!! pictures and tons of info can help us help you! But I think you have this one! just BREATHE and read read read that assist article as well as the 101 article!

 

[blzzrdqueen]

Sally, you helped me with an assist last year, I ended up saving a chicks life with your help!!! I'm sitting on my hands, with my ear to the bator listening for peeps! I have my bator in my downstairs bathroom and my webcam is hooked up to stream the hatch, so my laptop is in the bathroom too, on a stool, and I am sitting in front of it watching my own stream and doing Access homework. I can't leave this room! No matter how hard I try I just keep hovering! This is my second hatch and after this I will be hatching or trying to hatch about 2doz pheasants! I pick up those eggs on Saturday so I really hope these chicks are all hatched by then. My humidity is at 56% and my temp dropped to 98 degrees...I haven't opened the bator in a few hours. Debating if I should add another wash cloth. Not a whole lot of room left. Whatever chicks do hatch will be walking and tripping over sponges.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

LOL I hear that!! I swear mine were trying to eat the sponges!! I threw some crumbles in to deter them!! haha ha