Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[cochins1088]

Ok this will be blunt so that I cover the important stuff. I keep emotion out of it so that I can get the details explained

(gotta use this disclaimer as it isnt that I dont care, but I am clinical in how treat hatching eggs)

1. Goose eggs are NOTHING like chicken eggs on any level other than their shape
2. They develop differently and candle differently
3. You are seeing what appears like a normal egg
4. I would like to see a better picture candled from the top showing how well the air cell has developed
5. Geese dont hatch in any form of a hurry
6. I NEVER go into lockdown until I candle and can SEE the gosling has pipped internally.
7. Then and ONLY then will I lock down and raise the humidity
8. This assures you if the gosling needs a few extra hours to turn or of lower humidity they get it
9. Stop turning is fine the last three days as it helps the baby turn into position
10. Keep checking every 6-8 hours for an internal pip
11. Once you see an internal pip get that humidity up and then go into lockdown
12. DONT open the bator again until that gosling has hatched
13. It will internall pip and then just lay there and rest
14. Will turn inside the egg and look like its doing nothing
15. External pip and rest more
16. turn and rest
17. punch more shell and rest
18. They can take 2 full days to truly show any real progress
19. RESIST helping, opening the bator or over reacting (this is the hardest part)
20. dont not open the bator once it has externally pipped
21. do not open the bator once it has externally pipped
22. do not open the bator once it has externally pipped

Thanks so much! This really helps!

Pete's guide to hatching says that you can make a safety hole if there isn't much progress after the internal pip. Since geese take longer, how long is too long?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I am in the process of negotiating 12 peafowl eggs for my end of may egg run. Those puppies aren't cheap. I am not sure how well they travel. I guess if I can get a breeding pair out of them i will be happy

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Quote: 8-12 hours after intrnally pipping



ozexpat

Do you want Toulouse or Dewlap Toulouse? two very different birds

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Day 2
Embryo begins to turn on left side. Blood vessels appear in the yolk sac. Major developments visible under microscope:

• 25 hours, beginning of formation of veins and heart
• 30 hours, second, third and fourth vesicles of brain clearly defined, as is heart, which now starts to beat
• 35 hours, beginning of formation of ear pits
• 36 hours, first sign of amnion
• 46 hours, formation of throat

http://urbanext.illinois.edu/eggs/res27-timing.html
If you go to that page and view the progression of the embryo you will note that its in the same position the entire cycle. Not that this answers my questions but it does help me lean towards setting eggs in a turner and laying at hatch, be it shipped or not!

my #2 Malposition here says:
This position is commonly seen in eggs that have been incubated upside down and is also more prevalent in eggs that have been incubated horizontally compared to eggs incubated with their large ends uppermost. The position can occur in eggs that have been incubated the right way up (especially those eggs with a rounder shape), eggs which have been exposed to high temperatures in the setters or when the angle of turning is too small. - See more at: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/artic...amining-the-hatch-debris#sthash.kaG1QGcF.dpuf

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Yes I talk to myself alot dont I?

and all this in between doing the dishes, laundry, cooking, cleaning, cooking, cleaning toys, wiping stinky butts, playing silly games, singing silly songs and feeding too many chickens!

 

[Sparkypatriot15]

Yes I talk to myself alot dont I?  and all this in between doing the dishes, laundry, cooking, cleaning, cooking, cleaning toys, wiping stinky butts, playing silly games, singing silly songs and feeding too many chickens!

Awe that's a lot!!! ):

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: it could be worse, but I dont think it gets worse as far as the solitary confinement, And kids dont listen if anyone doesnt know this! LOL

 

[Sparkypatriot15]

it could be worse, but I dont think it gets worse as far as the solitary confinement,  And kids dont listen if anyone doesnt know this! LOL

Well, I could still be considered a kid I suppose, an I listen!
And awe I'm sorry!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

LOOK who is sleeping the right way for the first time EVER!!!

BUBBA! anyone remember what day he was born?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: And this is why I am always online and the laptop is on the table centered in the house! I look like a physco mom running from place to place and pausing to read and type fast, lol But I do have you guys and very thankful to have found some much needed support and "convertyping" in my life!