Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

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Had a few minutes while DS was sleeping so I candled really fast. Now I have concerns about 4 eggs. I guess 4 out of 22 at this point isn't bad for shipped eggs though.
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Fairly sure #1 is a blood ring. There's a line that looks like a vein that goes all the way around and no other 'veins' present.
#4 Has a REALLY wobbly airsac, looks like it is almost detatched again
#9 has no visible veining
#18 has a REALLY WEIRD airsac now. It looks like the air sac split in half and one half is reattached while the other half is rolling around next to it.
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Chick_In_The_Burbs said:
Had a few minutes while DS was sleeping so I candled really fast. Now I have concerns about 4 eggs. I guess 4 out of 22 at this point isn't bad for shipped eggs though.
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Fairly sure #1 is a blood ring. There's a line that looks like a vein that goes all the way around and no other 'veins' present.
#4 Has a REALLY wobbly airsac, looks like it is almost detatched again
#9 has no visible veining
#18 has a REALLY WEIRD airsac now. It looks like the air sac split in half and one half is reattached while the other half is rolling around next to it.
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If you have veining keep them, if blood ring get rid of them.... what day is this??? if after 10 day chuck inferts
pics are great! and we can add them to the article too if they are useful to others!!
 
Kelly that is AWESOME VIDEO!! I love it!! PERFECT!!! awwwwwwww you guys are so cute!!
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an "Poof" too!
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hello all! i'm on day 7 of a bunch of shipped eggs and candled and found lots of detached air cells, and some with chicks growing. i'm kinda confused about lockdown. do the detached cell eggs still have to be kept upright for lockdown and hatch? like in an egg carton?
 
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kefiren said:
hello all! i'm on day 7 of a bunch of shipped eggs and candled and found lots of detached air cells, and some with chicks growing. i'm kinda confused about lockdown. do the detached cell eggs still have to be kept upright for lockdown and hatch? like in an egg carton?
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YAY!! If you had detatched keep them upright for the entire hatch.
here are my incubating notes https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101

and this a paste of one section of it.....

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Shipped Eggs = Change Of Plans!
Shipped eggs have a MUCH lower hatch rate, even with experienced hatchers!
It’s always best to get local eggs to get the best hatch rate. Sources for eggs are to search the BYC buy sell trade section, Craigslist and eBay. Your local thread on BYC may be the best bet for local eggs! Look for your local site in the “Social section” “Where am I? Where are You!” on BYC.

BELOW ROLLING AIR CELL OF A SHIPPED EGG
Rolls like a Carpenters Level


Important Links to AIR CELL DAMAGE...​

UNDERSTANDING what goes WRONG with SHIPPED EGGS
The yolk of an egg is held in place on each end by what is called Chalaza. These are delicate cords that keep the yolk centered in the egg. When you crack open an egg, you notice a white stringy thing on the yolk, this is the Chalaza. When eggs are shipped they encounter postal handlers that toss the packages, sorting machinery, bumpy vehicle rides, temperature changes and possibly X-ray Machines! So by the time the eggs get to you they are pretty much scrambled inside. So if you are going to buy eggs and have them shipped to you, be aware that the viability drops TREMENDOUSLY. There are rare instances when they ALL arrive safely but it is always a gamble.



http://www.geauga4h.org/poultry/egg_parts.htm


BELOW ARE "SADDLE" SHAPED AIR CELLS

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CONCLUSION ~ Shipped eggs
For rolling, detached or disrupted air cells (cells no longer at fat end of the egg but like a bubble level on the long side, rolling or saddle shaped cells), you’ll need to change your hatch plan. They need to sit 24 hours NO TURNING, pointy end down in a Styrofoam Egg Carton with the bottoms cut out for ventilation to possibly reattach air cells. Allow eggs to sit in a moderately cool, somewhat humid place for 12-24 hours before you begin to incubate them. Basements are great. Moderately cool means 65-75 degrees with the fat end UP. After settle period SET Shipped eggs in the incubator in the carton with bottoms cut out as pictured below, do not turn for 36-48 hours to help air cell re-attach. To leave them in the egg carton for all 21 days of the hatch will give you a better hatch rate. After 36-48 hours begin turning or hand turn by laying the eggs side to side 3 times a day, as in the image below. REMINDER~ Never Set COLD eggs in the incubator.


Below image are Eggs in A Carton with Bottoms cut out for Ventilation



Below image of Turning Shipped Eggs, just lean to opposite side.


BELOW is a short video of an Rolling Detatched Air Cell
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thank you for the quick answer! last time i hatched in egg cartons the paper cartons got wet. so, i may use plastic with uncut bottoms, i don't know. do you think that is ok?
 
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