Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[familypendragon]

if you are hatching such quantities you should consider vacciations for pox and newcastle disease

here is my thread https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...-how-to-go-about-vaccinating-a-backyard-flock

Oh my, thank you for all the info. I am so overwhelmed...

So I have just set my last batch of eggs till next Spring. So I think from my reading on your thread I need to wait to do all this till the last batch hatches and then do everything to everyone when the last batch are 1 day old. But the FP is here now... so maybe not. All this is hard for me to wrap my head around as I have a vaccine injured son (not picking a fight here and will absolutely not get into a debate with anyone about what we have been through with our son) and so I am not a huge fan of vaxing in general. But I also know chickens are not humans and vice versa. And I know that most things have their place when used wisely. I don't want to overwhelm them either with giving too many things at once. I agree that it sounds like these 3 are really important to give them.

So right now I have maybe 10 birds that are at least 1 year old. Maybe 10 that are about 7 months. Probably 25 that are 4 to 5 months - many I don't know their exact age. About 25 that are 2 months old. And about 40 that are between a week and 2 months. In the incubator I have 12 eggs due over the course of the next 2 weeks. And then I have 18 Wheaten/Blue Wheaten Ameraucana eggs set tonight.

Oz, oh wise and powerful (had to be said, LOL!) please help me figure out a schedule. Please be really specific as in "Do this to these chickens on this day, wait x number of days and do this to these chickens on this day" I have a learning disability that makes digesting information like that very hard. I need a chart or specific instructions. Otherwise my head just swims.

AND - what happens next year when I begin breeding and doing hatches? It suddenly sounds really scary to be breeding and selling chicks locally rather than just selling hatching eggs :/

Sorry to be a big baby and sound so needy. I would really appreciate your help though since you already understand the information and have internalized it and put it into practice. I don't want to screw it up... and I am having trouble getting the info in the right order in my head to make sense. Once I get it though I will really "get it" - that is how my brain works. Similar to Aspergers.

 

[ozexpat]

Oh my, thank you for all the info. I am so overwhelmed...

So I have just set my last batch of eggs till next Spring. So I think from my reading on your thread I need to wait to do all this till the last batch hatches and then do everything to everyone when the last batch are 1 day old. But the FP is here now... so maybe not. All this is hard for me to wrap my head around as I have a vaccine injured son (not picking a fight here and will absolutely not get into a debate with anyone about what we have been through with our son) and so I am not a huge fan of vaxing in general. But I also know chickens are not humans and vice versa. And I know that most things have their place when used wisely. I don't want to overwhelm them either with giving too many things at once. I agree that it sounds like these 3 are really important to give them.

So right now I have maybe 10 birds that are at least 1 year old. Maybe 10 that are about 7 months. Probably 25 that are 4 to 5 months - many I don't know their exact age. About 25 that are 2 months old. And about 40 that are between a week and 2 months. In the incubator I have 12 eggs due over the course of the next 2 weeks. And then I have 18 Wheaten/Blue Wheaten Ameraucana eggs set tonight.

Oz, oh wise and powerful (had to be said, LOL!) please help me figure out a schedule. Please be really specific as in "Do this to these chickens on this day, wait x number of days and do this to these chickens on this day" I have a learning disability that makes digesting information like that very hard. I need a chart or specific instructions. Otherwise my head just swims.

AND - what happens next year when I begin breeding and doing hatches? It suddenly sounds really scary to be breeding and selling chicks locally rather than just selling hatching eggs

Sorry to be a big baby and sound so needy. I would really appreciate your help though since you already understand the information and have internalized it and put it into practice. I don't want to screw it up... and I am having trouble getting the info in the right order in my head to make sense. Once I get it though I will really "get it" - that is how my brain works. Similar to Aspergers.

lol on the wise and powerful.

i would be happy to make up a chart but i am caught up with all sorts of dramas at the moment but if you have not got the chart in 2 weeks, please remind me.

my guinea chicks started dying today. i lost 2. its probably the quail disease spreading. I started them on dimethox and oxytetracycline today. that stopped the carnage with the quail.

 

[familypendragon]

lol on the wise and powerful.

i would be happy to make up a chart but i am caught up with all sorts of dramas at the moment but if you have not got the chart in 2 weeks, please remind me.

my guinea chicks started dying today. i lost 2. its probably the quail disease spreading. I started them on dimethox and oxytetracycline today. that stopped the carnage with the quail.

OH NO!! So sorry!! Also about our dog issue - I bought an electric fence today and will be putting that around their enclosure. I will put let them out around the coop at night though because once again our littlest one alerted us tonight of a predator headed toward the coop. Not sure what it was - just saw the glowing eyes in the distance.

 

[familypendragon]

OH, and another thought... what is the device you use for vaxing through the wing web (can't find it on Jeffers) - AND do you/how do you sterilize it between each chick/chicken? And which pox vax? http://www.jefferspet.com/chick-n-pox-tc/camid/LIV/cp/F7-JE/cn/3501/ OR http://www.jefferspet.com/poxine-1000-ds/camid/LIV/cp/F7-J3/cn/3501/

Or is this something you have to do twice? Ugh, brain hurts already, LOL!

 

[rbaker0345]

I want to get together a cooperative for vaccinations. Did you know that Merck now makes a vaccine for ILT. It is a recombinant vaccine with a Mareks carrier, so not only do you get resistance to Mareks, but you also get immunity (non-shedding and extremely low morbidity) to ILT. Unlike the live attenuated which is like giving them ILT, they can shed it when stressed and you need to give it once a year.

The only problem is that Merck only sells it in packs of 15 and each pack vaccinates 200 birds putting the cost at about $17 per bird. To much for a single backyard owner, but if a bunch of us got together.....

Oh, P.S. we never had this conversation because this is all off-label. Its only approved for use in in-ovo vaccination but it has shown very good efficacy when given in the wing-web at 5 wks. Why wont these big pharmie companies acknowledge that they need to acknowledge the backyard flock owner? I can get the permit to vaccinate and I have a friend who would be willing to order for me under my permit and then I could next day ship to others if anyone is interested. Its not illegal, its just not really accepted procedure as far as the USDA is concerned. But we're talking about rules that were put in place for big commercial operations without even thinking about us little guys.

 

[rbaker0345]

Oh my, thank you for all the info. I am so overwhelmed...

So I have just set my last batch of eggs till next Spring. So I think from my reading on your thread I need to wait to do all this till the last batch hatches and then do everything to everyone when the last batch are 1 day old. But the FP is here now... so maybe not. All this is hard for me to wrap my head around as I have a vaccine injured son (not picking a fight here and will absolutely not get into a debate with anyone about what we have been through with our son) and so I am not a huge fan of vaxing in general. But I also know chickens are not humans and vice versa. And I know that most things have their place when used wisely. I don't want to overwhelm them either with giving too many things at once. I agree that it sounds like these 3 are really important to give them.

So right now I have maybe 10 birds that are at least 1 year old. Maybe 10 that are about 7 months. Probably 25 that are 4 to 5 months - many I don't know their exact age. About 25 that are 2 months old. And about 40 that are between a week and 2 months. In the incubator I have 12 eggs due over the course of the next 2 weeks. And then I have 18 Wheaten/Blue Wheaten Ameraucana eggs set tonight.

Oz, oh wise and powerful (had to be said, LOL!) please help me figure out a schedule. Please be really specific as in "Do this to these chickens on this day, wait x number of days and do this to these chickens on this day" I have a learning disability that makes digesting information like that very hard. I need a chart or specific instructions. Otherwise my head just swims.

AND - what happens next year when I begin breeding and doing hatches? It suddenly sounds really scary to be breeding and selling chicks locally rather than just selling hatching eggs

Sorry to be a big baby and sound so needy. I would really appreciate your help though since you already understand the information and have internalized it and put it into practice. I don't want to screw it up... and I am having trouble getting the info in the right order in my head to make sense. Once I get it though I will really "get it" - that is how my brain works. Similar to Aspergers.

These questions can be answered, for free, by your state vet. Its their job to answer these questions for you, you pay taxes for them to help you when you need it.

 

[TweetyNPetey]

Some new family members are coming!
Found some free Pekin Drakes yesterday, and we're gonna go pick 'em up tonight!
They're a bit skittish, but they're so sweet. Their names are Ernie and Ed, Ernie is.... about 6 months, and Ed is 3 years.

 

[familypendragon]

These questions can be answered, for free, by your state vet.  Its their job to answer these questions for you, you pay taxes for them to help you when you need it.  

I have a state vet??? Will he/she DO the vaccinations??

 

[Roxannemc]

Reading everyones proiblems here...wow so bad....but sumi... was so lucky Id be hiding in my house afraid to come out though but im not a piison snake fan ill stick with garter and black snakes thank you
Dogs. .guess my problems are just silly ones... My sneaky Chorkie went in the Lav Am coop and ate the eggs she and my
splash eng orp were sitting on 2 weeks ...ug She and my Mastiff girl dontt bother chicks at all butare thriled to lick up the birds food when i feed them and then ignore their dog food .
I woke up depressed Leg hurts fron knee repkacerment and water well pump shut off b/ c my son didnt pay his bill and now we found the well pump is on his electric Bought 14 gallons of water yesterday ...4 left....BUT reading all the poor ppl real problems here i feel like mine are so paultry! Hope everyones luck turns better on backs dogs and chicken diseases One thing.. when things are down. they gotta go UP!!!GOOD LUCK TO ALL!

 

[Roxannemc]

Oh and had a broody hatch out 6 babies 2 weeks ago still eggs there but o nly sat on nights .still a NEW chick hatched out yesterday .Think he can vkeep up?Sort of worried .going to 40 at night 70 days.