Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

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A little update... of the 4 blue wheaten Ameraucanas that went into lockdown, 1 has hatched, and 2 appear to be dead inside. It looks like the membrane has ripped open at the aircell line where it was previously reattached. (all the aircells were all detached upon arrival) I can see blood around the area where I believe that the air cell ripped. There is also clear liquid in there, so I don't think they lived until day 21, I think it happened on day 18.

I am seriously regretting laying them on their sides for hatch, as I believe that is when it must have happened. It appeared reattached on day 18, and I debated whether to hatch them upright or laying down... won't be doing that again.
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A little update... of the 4 blue wheaten Ameraucanas that went into lockdown, 1 has hatched, and 2 appear to be dead inside. It looks like the membrane has ripped open at the aircell line where it was previously reattached. (all the aircells were all detached upon arrival) I can see blood around the area where I believe that the air cell ripped. There is also clear liquid in there, so I don't think they lived until day 21, I think it happened on day 18.

I am seriously regretting laying them on their sides for hatch, as I believe that is when it must have happened. It appeared reattached on day 18, and I debated whether to hatch them upright or laying down... won't be doing that again. :hit
Oh no :( I had a similar experience and came to the same conclusion. I started just turning the turner off, lining it with paper towels and putting the eggs back on top. I kept the paper towels damp for humidity and it seemed to work soooo much better.
 
Hey y'all! Finally getting back in the swing of things after 4 moves this year. Flock got decimated between moves dogs coyote and 2 psycho landlords one poisoning them the other shooting them out of spite. So with only a handful of turkeys a trio of african geese and 4 ducks left its back to square one. All the moves bout bankrupted us. So yeah that's it. Trying to start over but yeah being broke is deff going to make this slow going. Think what makes me the maddest of all is this last round the whole meat flock destined for the semper fi foundation and wounded warriors is what they went after.... That really gets under my skin in a bad way. Anyways, good to be back. Semper FI


I cant believe these moves in such a short time, just sucks big time. And the whole semper fi /warriors flock really really makes me more angry at the neighbors! I cant be too mad at the coyotes though they get hungry too I guess.
 
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A little update... of the 4 blue wheaten Ameraucanas that went into lockdown, 1 has hatched, and 2 appear to be dead inside. It looks like the membrane has ripped open at the aircell line where it was previously reattached. (all the aircells were all detached upon arrival) I can see blood around the area where I believe that the air cell ripped. There is also clear liquid in there, so I don't think they lived until day 21, I think it happened on day 18.

I am seriously regretting laying them on their sides for hatch, as I believe that is when it must have happened. It appeared reattached on day 18, and I debated whether to hatch them upright or laying down... won't be doing that again.
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the dead ones had pipped or not pipped but in correct position? or malpositioned? yolks had been absorbing? these are good determination points of age.

I have never seen a membrane rip when they are that far along and that viable, I have never seen a membrane rip ever unless I did it by accident when assisting. Also, It is really strange that you see blood when they died so early because usually everything is simply brown and gross in there with the early deathers. but what do I know.
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I guess you can say a rip is a pip, or very rare occasion toenail cut for malpositioned. Images of what you see is always best when trying to figure stuff out.
 
I haven't opened them up yet, holding onto some hope that I'm very wrong...but I can tell there is a lot of excess clear fluid in there, which to me indicates it never made it to full development? They are day 22...

These 2 eggs in particular were light blue, a bit more white than the others, and perhaps thinner shells because they illuminated very BRIGHT red when I candled d15, something I did not see with the other blue eggs or with brown eggs ever... So, I could see all the veins etc when they were alive, and it's easy to see in there now.

I candled them today and the "rip" area that I think I can see looks like a discoloration inside the shell, slightly lighter color, and around it there appears to be coagulated blood, now brown/darkish, not red or bright. I can see other little bits of coagulated blood throughout, near the top within the clear liquid, and also some near the bottom where you might expect there to be waste near the yolk. I can see a clear area near the bottom that I think is the yolk unabsorbed, and clearly a big dark formed chick inside. The amount of clear liquid sloshing around the top is what feels very very wrong to me..

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I don't want to open them!!! I don't want to see...
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